Probable-Wordlists

Security and privacy

password wordlists

SHOW HN2017

184points
52comments
#191of 2,242 in 2017
Top 9%of 2017 by points

How HN took it

DebatedReal support and real criticism

4 positive, 7 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 5 critical, out of 16 comments about the project. Thread score -0.14.

Idea: 2 for, 1 againstPrivacy: 2 for, 1 againstExecution: 0 for, 2 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

The thread, comment by comment

Each row is a top-level comment and its replies, in HN's order. Select a cell to open that comment on HN.

positive neutral or mixed critical about another commenter or something else the maker

What HN said

What people liked

  • Useful for validating new passwords against common lists

    From 1 comment
    • This list is immediately useful for validating user-created new passwords. Just stop with the bizarre rules about having uppercase, lowercase, symbols, numbers, length, etc.…
      lucasgonze on HN
  • Publishing it provides net benefit to defenders

    From 2 comments
    • Audits. Education. Change. It's not like bad guys don't already have wordlists, or that they are new in any way. Having good ones available, in the open, for everyone to use,…
      mvdwoord on HN
    • It's already exposed. That's the point. The adversary has this intel. It would be irresponsible not to study and publish it, thereby reducing their informational edge.
      qeternity on HN

Objections

  • Exposing these lists mainly helps hackers and crackers

    From 1 comment
    • Not to sound negative, but is this something we should really be exposing? It feels like the only ones who gain from this are hackers and password crackers, no?
      smaili on HN
  • Lists are English-centric and US-biased

    From 2 comments
    • Note that this password list is valid rather for English speaking world.
      expertentipp on HN
    • Speaking of rarely updated - version two will come out mid-July at the latest. I'm also going to attempt to attribute the sources to given countries or at least language…
      berzerk0 on HN
  • Torrent distribution has seed and size problems

    From 1 comment
    • Is there really any reason to multiply the downloads by 4 just to have different compression methods? It seems to me like that just needlessly dilutes the seed swarm and wastes…
      kaslai on HN

Requests

  • Package as a library or bloom filter for developers

    From 2 comments
    • you should package this up as a bloom filter and simple js routine web developers could use to do client-side checks to validate passwords. edit: on 2nd thought looks like a…
      gfody on HN
    • I wonder about how to package your data as developer tools. There should be libraries in any language used to develop systems which validate user-entered passwords.
      lucasgonze on HN
  • Use IPFS for distribution

    From 1 comment

Questions

  • Why not load lists into a database with an index

    From 2 comments
    • I don't understand: Why do you assume that password checkers keep their lists in alphabetically sorted form rather than just to load the whole thing into a db table with an index…
      jacquesm on HN
    • Yes, but it doesn't matter what order they are in if you put them in a DB. I don't know anybody that would do a sequential scan over a file in production. All you've done is…
      jacquesm on HN

Alternatives named

  • zxcvbn by Dropbox includes a common password list

    From 1 comment
    • Dropbox has their zxcvbn method which incorporates a list of 30k of the most common passwords https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn
      berzerk0 on HN

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