OpenBSD Email Service

Infrastructure

email hosting

SHOW HN2018

215points
136comments
#161of 2,155 in 2018
Top 8%of 2018 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

6 positive, 23 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 16 critical, out of 45 comments about the project. Thread score -0.22.

Execution: 2 for, 6 againstPrivacy: 2 for, 4 againstIdea: 1 for, 3 againstPricing: 0 for, 1 againstDocs: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Self-hosted email can be low-maintenance once set up

    From 2 comments
    • By way of a counter-anecdote: I've been running my own email for 8 years and spend almost no time on it. I can't recall having to do any maintenance at all in the last 3 years.
      jstanley on HN
    • Yeah, I do the same - I plugged in Postfix, Dovecot and SpamAssassin and haven't had to touch it other than occasionally confirming backup scripts and automatic security updates…
      rightos on HN

Objections

  • Self-hosted email needs ongoing maintenance and breaks at bad times

    From 2 comments
    • Long time self-hosted email user, then long time Gmail user. Playing with your own server is fun, and I really enjoyed it. But things do go wrong, and they go wrong at the least…
      mseebach on HN
    • Same. It’s like I’m a small company. Single server with no active maintenance? Sounds great and why would we ever spend more on it? It works great! ... for a while. Once that…
      chrismeller on HN
  • Major providers like Gmail and Microsoft block or spam small self-hosted mail servers

    From 2 comments
    • Step 4: wonder why the hell people aren't replying to your mails. Step 5: realize you've been blackholed by gmail and hotmail with no bounces and no explanation. Step 6:…
      Tharkun on HN
    • I wish that were the case. I've been administering mail servers going back over 20 years and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. The last 4 years or so, things have gotten a lot…
      Tharkun on HN
  • Spam fighting is a constant chore

    From 1 comment
    • It's fun until it becomes a chore. And until you realize you're always one step behind people trying to break through with spam or attacks.
      deusex_ on HN
  • OpenBSD is behind on security

    From 1 comment
    • I wouldn't entrust my email to an operating system that lacks mandatory access control. OpenBSD is a fascinating project, but it is _decades_ behind the state of the art in…
      hapless on HN

Requests

  • Guidance on cheap VPS hosting and clean IP addresses

    From 3 comments
    • LowEndTalk.com will help you find a super cheap VPS. However I would advise using dedicated hardware for the server instead for improved privacy. There are two possible routes:…
      Tepix on HN
    • The hardest part to me is to get an IP address that's clean so your outgoing emails won't be marked as junks. Also, then you'll have to get help from ISP to update PTR records…
      a012 on HN
    • I've always wanted to host my own mail but every time I look it up they always recommend like 2GB of ram. I've thought about whether one in D / Rust would be easier to host, but…
      giancarlostoro on HN

Questions

  • How to avoid spam folder placement at Gmail

    From 2 comments
    • Does you email get marked as SPAM by gmail? I do something similar, but when I send an email to a person for the first time, it always ends up in the spam folder by GMail.
      sfilargi on HN
    • I have DKIM, SPF, etc. but still gets caught by spam. What do you mean by "trusted host"?
      sfilargi on HN
  • How to handle automatic system updates

    From 1 comment

Alternatives named

  • mail-in-a-box

    From 2 comments
    • There is also mail-in-a-box: https://github.com/mail-in-a-box/mailinabox
      webaholic on HN
    • Same here. I have owned my domain and ran my email server for six years now. Investing a week worth of afternoons harls really paid off and i can do neat things like having…
      znpy on HN
  • Fastmail

    From 2 comments
    • Same. It’s like I’m a small company. Single server with no active maintenance? Sounds great and why would we ever spend more on it? It works great! ... for a while. Once that…
      chrismeller on HN
    • I think every FastMail proponent is single, as they are always touting how you get the same thing as running your own email server for $5/mo. But for people with a family it is…
      eikenberry on HN
  • mailcow

    From 1 comment
    • Used to manage it all manually, set up https://mailcow.email/ after a server move a couple years ago. It's been great, running inside docker now via docker-compose alongside…
      thunfischbrot on HN
  • sovereign

    From 1 comment
    • If you don't want to do everything by hand, check out https://github.com/sovereign/sovereign/
      Tepix on HN

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