Brutal.js
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javascript library
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How HN took it
0 positive, 9 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 15 critical, out of 24 comments about the project. Thread score -0.54.
Idea: 0 for, 12 againstExecution: 0 for, 2 againstPerformance: 0 for, 1 against
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What HN said
What people liked
Tagged template approach is interesting and a good learning example
From 1 comment
I was wondering how they pulled of the R`` expressions because I didn't realize that JS added "tagged templates" like this [1]. So if nothing I learned something new by reading…
wybiral on HN
Objections
Brutalism does not need a framework; the concept is a poor fit for JS frameworks
From 4 comments
Might just be me, but it feels a little weird that brutalist design needs a framework. But perhaps I'm misconstruing the design/look of it to how it is actually built, in which…
b_b on HNAgreed. Not to sound too harsh, but this "framework" (actually a library) smells very strongly of bandwagon. Why should I use this when I could use something like Hyperapp or…
warent on HNYes, could not agree more, Brutalism is quite hot right now (although HN seems to hold a bit of an alternative definition about what Brutalism entails) which really seems like…
rutierut on HNLet's beat that dead horse. Part of the pillars of brutalist web design is "no framework". Sugarless sweetener now made from sugar cane!
corodra on HN
Possible XSS vulnerability from unescaped template interpolation
From 2 comments
I tried making something like this (JSX with Template Literals) few times, they are languishing in unfinished JSFiddles. The main issue was making it XSS-safe by default, which…
franciscop on HNDemo 2 seems to be a problem with jsfiddle: https://jsfiddle.net/hegLkz4s/22/ It's also already been reported: https://github.com/jsfiddle/jsfiddle-issues/issues/963 You're right…
jamescostian on HN
Not true to the brutalist web philosophy of plain HTML and CSS
From 2 comments
A brutalist website - by definition - should hardly contain any JS/CSS.
tzahola on HNI think this is kind of missing the point. The movement toward brutalism tries to bring back the uniqueness of sites on the early web in all their bizarre diversity. It's also…
tarboreus on HN
Requests
Make template interpolation escape by default, or throw on unsafe strings
From 2 comments
Does it throw if a template returns a string? While it's a cool feature to be able to do this, it's also quite dangerous (specially when dealing with beginners for this library)…
franciscop on HNAh cool, that works as well from a security point of view. I slightly prefer throwing, but that is highly opinionated.
franciscop on HN
Questions
What is the XSS attack vector?
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What is the attack vector?
dothis on HN
Alternatives named
lit-html
From 2 comments
Lit-html seems like a more fleshed-out version of this: https://github.com/Polymer/lit-html
numtel on HNlit-html, a similar HTML templating with template literals library, achieves /mostly/ XSS-safe by default by never interpolating dynamic data before parsing, but interpolating…
spankalee on HN
React
From 2 comments
I tried making something like this (JSX with Template Literals) few times, they are languishing in unfinished JSFiddles. The main issue was making it XSS-safe by default, which…
franciscop on HNI don't get the example code. It is possible to write even simpler code in React than it is showed in the documentation. const ButtonWidget = ({name}) => (<button onClick={() =>…
kvczor on HN
Hyperapp or Preact
From 1 comment
Agreed. Not to sound too harsh, but this "framework" (actually a library) smells very strongly of bandwagon. Why should I use this when I could use something like Hyperapp or…
warent on HN
Stimulus JS
From 1 comment
Reminds me in an odd way of Stimulus JS. (https://stimulusjs.org/) Actually, in the current project I am working on, I have been using Stimulus JS and VanillaJS™ exclusively and…
richjdsmith on HN