Hyperfiddle

Dev tools

real-time web app editor

SHOW HN2018

121points
32comments
#357of 2,155 in 2018
Top 17%of 2018 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

4 positive, 8 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 8 critical, out of 21 comments about the project. Thread score -0.16.

Docs: 0 for, 4 againstIdea: 1 for, 2 againstPerformance: 1 for, 1 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Live editing and time-travel via Datomic make the approach interesting

    From 2 comments
    • Like others, it took me a while to understand what this actually does. Even coming from a Clojure+Datomic background. As best I can tell, this is like phpMyAdmin for Datomic. But…
      aaroniba on HN
    • I've known about hyperfiddle for a while, but I never really "got" it. I finally get it, this is https://glitch.com but with a hosted database and can be used for real web apps…
      swlkr on HN
  • Fast demo and shareable fiddles are appealing

    From 1 comment

Objections

  • Homepage and presentation are confusing to newcomers

    From 4 comments
    • Just to add another piece of feedback - I'm someone who has written production Clojure + Datomic apps and still don't understand what this product actually does. Not withstanding…
      jtmarmon on HN
    • As a user, don't make me think when I visit your website. What am I looking at? The tagline "Real CRUD apps, zero to prod in a month in real-time." is good. The rest is confusing…
      aargh_aargh on HN
    • You really need to make the presentation more approachable. It would be great if you could get a web developer to do the front-end for you -- the more unfamiliar he/she is to…
      kreetx on HN
    • I like the idea but it seems too confusing for anyone without background on datomic and clojure. Also there is no labeling/help for the interface. It almost feels alien.
      option_greek on HN
  • Requires Clojure and Datomic knowledge

    From 2 comments
    • I love the idea and I've worked on similar stuff (although not in Clojure or Datomic) multiple times[1], however never finishing anything. The problem is that I don't know…
      fiatjaf on HN
    • I like the idea but it seems too confusing for anyone without background on datomic and clojure. Also there is no labeling/help for the interface. It almost feels alien.
      option_greek on HN
  • Live editing does not replace git and versioning for production

    From 1 comment
    • Perhaps I've been eating the 'devops' cookies for too long, but live editing doesn't replace git and versioning. Even if you're running only 'latest' version and your product is…
      xchaotic on HN
  • Large JavaScript payload size

    From 1 comment
    • Thanks for sharing your work! Your demo app has a 1.7MB payload after gzipping (the main.js file alone is 9.5MB before gzip). For me, this alone would be a dealbreaker. Do you…
      chrisparton1991 on HN

Requests

  • Clearer homepage and explanation of what the product does

    From 3 comments
    • Just to add another piece of feedback - I'm someone who has written production Clojure + Datomic apps and still don't understand what this product actually does. Not withstanding…
      jtmarmon on HN
    • As a user, don't make me think when I visit your website. What am I looking at? The tagline "Real CRUD apps, zero to prod in a month in real-time." is good. The rest is confusing…
      aargh_aargh on HN
    • You really need to make the presentation more approachable. It would be great if you could get a web developer to do the front-end for you -- the more unfamiliar he/she is to…
      kreetx on HN
  • Reduce payload size

    From 1 comment
    • Thanks for sharing your work! Your demo app has a 1.7MB payload after gzipping (the main.js file alone is 9.5MB before gzip). For me, this alone would be a dealbreaker. Do you…
      chrisparton1991 on HN

Questions

  • Does it store data on the user's PC or a server?

    From 1 comment
  • Is hosted Datomic allowed under the license?

    From 1 comment
    • I definitely think there's value in hosted datomic. But I was under the impression the license forbade it - did they change that?
      pbiggar on HN

Alternatives named

  • phpMyAdmin

    From 2 comments
    • Like others, it took me a while to understand what this actually does. Even coming from a Clojure+Datomic background. As best I can tell, this is like phpMyAdmin for Datomic. But…
      aaroniba on HN
    • My first impression was that this was something kinda like phpmyadmin, but more convenient. phpmyadmin takes work to install (30m plus when you include debug time). And it's not…
      megaman8 on HN
  • Glitch

    From 1 comment
    • I've known about hyperfiddle for a while, but I never really "got" it. I finally get it, this is https://glitch.com but with a hosted database and can be used for real web apps…
      swlkr on HN
  • FileMaker

    From 1 comment
    • Oh haha, filemaker still exists https://www.filemaker.com Though it sadly doesn't seem web based
      tokyodude on HN
  • Airtable and Ragic

    From 1 comment

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