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8 positive, 21 neutral or asking, 4 mixed, 31 critical, out of 64 comments about the project. Thread score -0.30.
Idea: 4 for, 18 againstDesign: 1 for, 3 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 4 againstPricing: 0 for, 2 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against
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Useful list of alternatives worth exploring
From 3 comments
While we should certainly take care about the definition of ethical here, this remains a great list of 'alternatives to mainstream stuff' that mainstream users should be made…
jmkd on HNI was skeptical but there's actually a few things in there I might try. I'm very motivated to move away from Gmail, for example.
nothis on HNThis is really cool. I (and I think some others around here) would like to move away from Google, etc, but sometimes it's hard to find other options. It's great having a…
glaurung_ on HN
Objections
'Ethical' is undefined and subjective
From 4 comments
How is ethical defined here? I cannot see a definition and I don't see what is the common denominator between all those tools. For example why isn't Telegram considered ethical…
dgellow on HNYou and whose ethics?
return0 on HNEthical seems to be a very fuzzy expression here without any meaning whatsoever. Even most of the claims made next to the service are not supportable in any practical way (for…
ekianjo on HNI don't like this idea, just like I don't like the idea of ESG ETFs and whatnot. It presupposes what is ethical and what is not, despite the obvious personal nature of the…
mruts on HN
Many listed services are not open source
From 1 comment
Most of the services there (ddg, fastmail) are not even open-source at all.
ekianjo on HN
Site blank with ad blockers
From 3 comments
Blank page with ad-block plus.
carnagii on HNBlank page with uBlock Origin.
imode on HNSome categories show a blank page, selecting the category all works fine though.
alien1993 on HN
Some listed tools have questionable ethics such as Firefox funding and Brave
From 2 comments
interesting, one of the first apps is firefox...yet most of their funding comes from as this page would characterize as 'unethical sources' so wouldn't they then by guilty ?
moocowtruck on HNMany would also consider the inclusion of Brave in the browser categories as dubious. Their business model comes very close to being a shakedown operation.
tssva on HN
Requests
Explain the selection criteria for ethical
From 2 comments
If that's the criteria it should be included fairly prominently on the site -- so visitors can understand and choose whether or not to use and contribute to the site.
jmull on HN> whose ethics? But is that not clear? The ethics of the person who made that list. You may not agree with it, and that's fine, but it's still useful to people who do agree with…
mcv on HN
Questions
How is ethical defined here?
From 2 comments
How is ethical defined here? I cannot see a definition and I don't see what is the common denominator between all those tools. For example why isn't Telegram considered ethical…
dgellow on HN> How is ethical defined here? Yeah, I'm not sure I follow this at all. Is it just being open source or not (directly) run by a huge company?
nkozyra on HN
Are third-party trackers used on the site?
From 1 comment
`ethical.net` is running a few third-party trackers (which I can't find on its own list of purportedly ethical resources).
neilv on HN
Alternatives named
prism-break.org
From 1 comment
See also: https://prism-break.org, but there are no "organizations" there.
fghtr on HN