Zecoda

AI

design to code generation

SHOW HN2019

397points
124comments
#56of 2,195 in 2019
Top 3%of 2019 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

14 positive, 31 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 22 critical, out of 69 comments about the project. Thread score -0.13.

Idea: 7 for, 7 againstExecution: 2 for, 7 againstPricing: 1 for, 5 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Interesting approach to a hard problem

    From 2 comments
    • This is a really interesting project, thanks for sharing. I think it's going to be difficult to get the model to the point where it generalizes well for lots of different…
      markbnj on HN
    • Founder here. As a front end developer, I turn design files into front-end code regularly. But it's a repetitive and demotivating task. It takes time, lots of meetings and boring…
      johndamaia on HN
  • Useful for client iteration and beta sites

    From 2 comments
    • Have you worked with clients? If you have a good producer/leader yes you can get a lot done. But many times this just happens as A. Client approves design B. You build the Beta…
      sprafa on HN
    • Depending on the customer, that could still be helpful. I've worked with people where you can ask them very specific questions over and over and get nowhere - the only way…
      wlesieutre on HN

Objections

  • Meetings and ambiguous designs not solved by automation

    From 2 comments
    • It takes time, lots of meetings and boring back and forth questions. I want to change that. So I tried to automate this process. The reason for all the meetings and questions is…
      onion2k on HN
    • The point I made in my reply is that this tool won't save you from those meetings and rounds of changes. As it'll speed up the coding side of the iterative development process by…
      onion2k on HN
  • Pricing too high for what is delivered

    From 3 comments
    • Since it is completely automated and the code is doing all the processing, why is the price so high and why is there even a charge is per artboard? Sketch is like 1/10th of that
      forthispurpose on HN
    • Your rates are higher than paying someone (offshore) to convert the artboards - why? Should be much cheaper if it's automated.
      sombremesa on HN
    • This looks promising, however, I'm not sure about the pricing model, $99 per month (IF billed annually) for 10 designs (10 artboards)?
      dudado on HN
  • Demo output not convincing; code needs engineer cleanup

    From 2 comments
    • Hi John, great idea but the demo didn't really convince me. How much of the system relies on engineers cleaning up the code? And I can't get past the fact that it becomes a…
      gitgud on HN
    • I’m sorry but this feels really hand-wavy to me. What did you feed your model for it to learn how to build vuejs sites? Vuejs template language is total chaos if you haven’t put…
      potench on HN
  • Privacy concerns from third-party tracking scripts

    From 1 comment
    • Sorry to be that guy, but fullstory, google tagmanager, and hotjar all on the same page, without any indication to the user that their every move is being tracked. This site is…
      katsura on HN

Requests

  • Show example input and output

    From 2 comments
    • It would help if there were examples of input and output—images of Sketch files and HTML pages that were generated (without manual fixes, if that's an option in your offers).
      aasasd on HN
    • This is really cool, it is really hard to evaluate the value of Zencoda without the code output of the demo. I get that the full product is not ready but being able to see the…
      stormtv on HN
  • Try-it access rather than early-access signup

    From 2 comments
    • From https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html > Show HN is for something you've made that other people can play with. HN users can try it out, give you feedback, and ask…
      diggan on HN
    • Hey, why not give something for people to try. I know[1] it takes (GPU) resources and may give it a hug of death but its much better to let at least some people try it out and…
      mkagenius on HN
  • Cheaper or one-off pricing

    From 2 comments
    • Hi. Wish you had one-off pricing. I'm sure there are agencies that do that kind of volume. I would love to use your service a few times a year.
      gotrythis on HN
    • Since it is completely automated and the code is doing all the processing, why is the price so high and why is there even a charge is per artboard? Sketch is like 1/10th of that
      forthispurpose on HN

Questions

  • How the deep learning model works

    From 1 comment
    • Hey john. Congrats on this, this is very interesting. From someone interested in ML/AI, can you explain just a bit more how the deep learning works?
      xcubic on HN
  • Whether the output is truly automatic and how much manual cleanup is needed

    From 2 comments
    • Is the home page itself built with this? Can you share the input file and an estimate on how long it took to work with the output to make it production ready?
      llarsson on HN
    • Hi John, great idea but the demo didn't really convince me. How much of the system relies on engineers cleaning up the code? And I can't get past the fact that it becomes a…
      gitgud on HN
  • Which stack and whether React is planned

    From 2 comments
    • What stack did you use?
      gilbertmpanga12 on HN
    • Surprised it’s Vue and not React. Vue is great, but there’s a lot of activity in the Sketch <-> React space, for example AirBnb’s Lona [0]. This could fit in nicely. [0]…
      mattkevan on HN

Alternatives named

  • Yotako

    From 1 comment
    • Looks like Yotako...https://www.yotako.io/ Whats the difference? Yotako seems to be in the deadpool though...havn't seen anything new in ages. Hard to scale this stuff.
      247yak on HN
  • Avocode

    From 1 comment
    • Seems a bit similar to what Avocode was/is trying to solve. Haven't followed them closely recently, but seems like they pivoted from pure design->code tool to design &…
      egman_ekki on HN
  • Airbnb Lona

    From 1 comment
    • Surprised it’s Vue and not React. Vue is great, but there’s a lot of activity in the Sketch <-> React space, for example AirBnb’s Lona [0]. This could fit in nicely. [0]…
      mattkevan on HN
  • Pix2Code and Sketch2Code research

    From 1 comment
    • It's really great to see more and more companies emerging in the market from these initial ideas/PoC: [1] Pix2Code: https://arxiv.org/abs/1705.07962 [2] Sketch2Code:…
      ReDeiPirati on HN

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