EDW

Finance and crypto

algorithmic trading

SHOW HN2011

70points
18comments
#177of 1,097 in 2011
Top 17%of 2011 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

2 positive, 2 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 4 critical, out of 8 comments about the project. Thread score -0.14.

Performance: 0 for, 2 againstDesign: 2 for, 0 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 againstIdea: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Demo web interface looks impressive and is worth a look

    From 2 comments
    • Since this article doesn't mention it clearly, the demo is really nice, and worth a look: http://edwardworthington.com/
      copper on HN
    • Looks impressive, particularly if those are real trading results. One concern I immediately have is overfitting, particularly for claims about how various difficult values have…
      aothman on HN

Objections

  • Reported 92% trade success rate suggests in-sample backtesting and overfitting

    From 3 comments
    • Looking at the web interface, it is claiming a 92% success rate on trades. That clearly indicates to me that those results are "in-sample". In other words, the model was trained…
      cschmidt on HN
    • Yep, it's the same thing as "testing on the training set". With memorization, one can achieve almost 100% on the training set. I'm not saying that EDW is doing this, but I'd be…
      ajays on HN
    • Looks impressive, particularly if those are real trading results. One concern I immediately have is overfitting, particularly for claims about how various difficult values have…
      aothman on HN
  • No mention of transaction costs or slippage

    From 2 comments
    • Looking at the web interface, it is claiming a 92% success rate on trades. That clearly indicates to me that those results are "in-sample". In other words, the model was trained…
      cschmidt on HN
    • When modelling hypothetical trades do you account for slippage and transaction costs?
      b0b0b0b on HN
  • Closed source, so results are hard to verify

    From 1 comment
    • This looks interesting. Even though it's closed-source, the architecture is interesting. As an amateur, I'm always stymied by the lack of data. For intra-day trading, where do…
      ajays on HN
  • Large drawdowns in the P&L sheet

    From 1 comment
    • If you look at his P&L sheet he has some largish drawdowns, with a lot of neutralish trades. I'd prefer to see smaller, but more consistent wins.
      spitfire on HN

Requests

  • Explain the machine learning method and whether test data is separate from training data

    From 1 comment
    • if you use some kind of regularization (e.g., if you think the parameters are sparse) it's possible to fit to such a large space without overfitting. this is common in machine…
      dododo on HN
  • Show risk-oriented portfolio construction and alpha calculation

    From 1 comment
    • I accidentally down voted but meant to up vote. I agree. Also, this appears to have no risk-oriented portfolio construction. You are calculating alphas somewhere, right? (not to…
      joshu on HN

Questions

  • Where does the intraday data come from?

    From 2 comments
    • This looks interesting. Even though it's closed-source, the architecture is interesting. As an amateur, I'm always stymied by the lack of data. For intra-day trading, where do…
      ajays on HN
    • There is data everywhere, and a lot of it is crap. Before you ask yourself what kind of data you need, you must ask yourself what kind of models you want to build. You can buy…
      lrm242 on HN
  • Why year-to-date and month-to-date values do not match, and why liquid equity exceeds account value

    From 1 comment
    • Why don't the values for year-to-date and month-to-date match? Is it a fake mock or a bug? Why is Liquid Equity significantly greater than Account Value? Is it another fake mock…
      benmccann on HN
  • Does the model account for slippage and transaction costs?

    From 1 comment
    • When modelling hypothetical trades do you account for slippage and transaction costs?
      b0b0b0b on HN

Alternatives named

  • Exchange depth-of-book data feeds (NASDAQ ITCH, NYSE ArcaBook)

    From 1 comment
    • There is data everywhere, and a lot of it is crap. Before you ask yourself what kind of data you need, you must ask yourself what kind of models you want to build. You can buy…
      lrm242 on HN
  • Nanex NxCore tick data

    From 1 comment
    • There is data everywhere, and a lot of it is crap. Before you ask yourself what kind of data you need, you must ask yourself what kind of models you want to build. You can buy…
      lrm242 on HN
  • Interactive Brokers market data

    From 1 comment
    • There is data everywhere, and a lot of it is crap. Before you ask yourself what kind of data you need, you must ask yourself what kind of models you want to build. You can buy…
      lrm242 on HN

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