Heimdall

Productivity

email alias management

SHOW HN2020

130points
52comments
#483of 3,028 in 2020
Top 16%of 2020 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

3 positive, 6 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 11 critical, out of 21 comments about the project. Thread score -0.33.

Idea: 0 for, 7 againstDocs: 2 for, 1 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Useful and well-explained design writeup

    From 2 comments
    • FYI, the developer has a writeup about the design behind this project: https://medium.com/@fabianterh/how-i-built-heimdall-an-open-source-personal-email-guardian-68e306d172d1 At…
      christefano on HN
    • thank you
      daseiner1 on HN

Objections

  • Attachments are silently dropped

    From 2 comments
    • > Known Limitations > Currently, attachments are not supported. That's kind of a biggie. What happens when someone sends an attachment? Does it bounce? Are they warned? Do I get…
      jedberg on HN
    • Right now, silently dropped. Yeah, this is an issue I'm planning to work on. The reason I chose to release it before supporting attachments is that for my use case for receiving…
      fterh on HN
  • Relies on AWS, so data is still held by a third party

    From 3 comments
    • > With Heimdall, you completely own and manage your data and the service. No feature limitations or having to trust a third-party company with your data. > Pre-requisites: You…
      zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on HN
    • > Unless you physically own a server you have to put your data somewhere, whether that somewhere is Digital Ocean, some shared hosting provider, AWS, or whatever else. You're…
      zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on HN
    • > No, you're not misunderstanding. I guess I made that statement with the implicit trust of AWS so I didn't think to qualify it. But that doesn't change that you are trusting a…
      zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on HN
  • Catch-all or per-service aliases are simpler with existing providers

    From 4 comments
    • This is a really cool project, so I don't mean to be overly negative, but personally this workflow feels quite a bit more laborious than just having a catch-all email address.…
      mmcclure on HN
    • You're going to get an astronomical amount of junk mail with a catchall email address. Google is great at filtering spam, but not perfect. If you're running your own mail server,…
      caymanjim on HN
    • If all you want to do is forward all mail for a domain somewhere you can easily do that at most domain registrars. I use this with Monicker.
      whatsmyusername on HN
    • Pretty sure Fastmail do (provide unlimited aliases). They certainly provide wildcard aliases, including domain wildcards.
      wrboyce on HN

Requests

  • Support email attachments

    From 2 comments
    • > Known Limitations > Currently, attachments are not supported. That's kind of a biggie. What happens when someone sends an attachment? Does it bounce? Are they warned? Do I get…
      jedberg on HN
    • This statement is pretty vague. Exactly what is not supported? Virtually all email is in multipart mime format.
      thedance on HN

Questions

  • Why use AWS SES rather than self-hosting the mail server

    From 2 comments
    • Self-managed email means using SES? The dream of the 90s exclaims “ouch”. It’s a realistic choice and I am not judging it, but still, ouch.
      thatha7777 on HN
    • I like the idea but I do not understand why someone would want something self-managed/hosted and then use AMZN SES to send/receive mail and S3 to save mail/attachments. 1. AMZN…
      VvR-Ox on HN

Alternatives named

  • Fastmail catch-all and wildcard aliases

    From 2 comments
    • I disagree with the "astronomical amount of junk mail" statement. I've been using FastMail with a catchall email address for years, and get very little spam; most of which is…
      moonlighter on HN
    • I remember thinking the same thing last time I looked into Fastmail, but earlier when I was checking before posting, it appears that's gotten much, much better. From the Fastmail…
      mmcclure on HN
  • Domain registrar email forwarding

    From 2 comments
    • This service is offered by most domain registrars out of the box.
      whatsmyusername on HN
    • If all you want to do is forward all mail for a domain somewhere you can easily do that at most domain registrars. I use this with Monicker.
      whatsmyusername on HN
  • Postfix with ViMbAdmin

    From 1 comment
    • You're going to get an astronomical amount of junk mail with a catchall email address. Google is great at filtering spam, but not perfect. If you're running your own mail server,…
      caymanjim on HN
  • Tamarind

    From 1 comment
    • I wrote and use a web service called Tamarind for managing throw-away mail aliases: http://www.kylheku.com/cgit/tamarind/tree/README It integrates into Apache as a CGI program…
      kazinator on HN

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