Straight2Spam

Productivity

email tool

SHOW HN2020

318points
109comments
#123of 3,028 in 2020
Top 5%of 2020 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

4 positive, 16 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 11 critical, out of 31 comments about the project. Thread score -0.15.

Execution: 0 for, 8 againstIdea: 3 for, 2 againstDesign: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Funny, clever take on spam filters and the GTUBE test string

    From 4 comments
    • #1 $$$ 100% Act now Action Additional income Affordable All natural/new Amazed Apply now Avoid Be amazed/your own boss Beneficiary Billing Billion Bonus Boss Buy Call!!!!!!…
      moscovium on HN
    • I know we're not supposed to comment on voting, but... this has got to be the spammiest-looking comment to ever gain this many legitimate upvotes without being removed. ...Well…
      zeta0134 on HN
    • I run loads of small business email systems and have done for decades, in the UK. That thing has GTUBE at the end of it, which doesn't look quite as dodgy as EICAR to humans.…
      gerdesj on HN
    • I love the Nathan for You reference in here. One of my all time favorite shows.
      asimpletune on HN

Objections

  • Including the GTUBE string may cause the email to be rejected outright rather than filed as spam

    From 3 comments
    • Since it has the GTUBE you are intentionally making an email that will get bounced almost everywhere so you may as well not send it.
      patchtopic on HN
    • My selfhosted mailcow (https://mailcow.email) instance blocked me from sending it (the SMTP server actually rejected it), and then blocked the one I sent from Gmail to it with…
      mynameisvlad on HN
    • Because EICAR might get the email straight blocked instead of marked as spam.
      joombaga on HN
  • Keyword-based spam triggers are a myth for modern filters; Gmail delivered a test to the inbox

    From 3 comments
    • I know this is the myth that'll never die when it comes to email, but keywords aren't a big trigger for modern spam filters.
      iamacyborg on HN
    • I just sent an email from my gmail to my Gsuite backed mailbox with the gtube text, didn't work :( the email landed in my inbox.
      gauravphoenix on HN
    • I sent an email from ProtonMail to Gmail and it is right there at the top of my inbox. I even put spam in subject line. Maybe Gmail knows I emailed myself? That is a scary…
      mcny on HN

Questions

  • Does the test actually land in the spam folder for major providers?

    From 2 comments
    • I just sent an email from my gmail to my Gsuite backed mailbox with the gtube text, didn't work :( the email landed in my inbox.
      gauravphoenix on HN
    • doesn't work. lol
      blattinum on HN

Alternatives named

  • Self-hosted mail servers such as mailinabox or maddy

    From 2 comments
    • Better advice, Don't attempt email manually. Use something like mailinabox and have everything configured for you and it just works. Been running my own mail server with…
      Polylactic_acid on HN
    • I recently discovered: https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy It takes a lot of the legwork out. Obviously you're referring to the likelihood of a major email provider marking you as…
      saym on HN
  • EICAR test email or raw SMTP test strings

    From 1 comment
    • Cute, but you could also just include the eicar text: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file
      sprior on HN

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