Clerk

Web and SaaS

user management as a service

SHOW HN2021

582points
223comments
#35of 2,533 in 2021
Top 2%of 2021 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

19 positive, 48 neutral or asking, 3 mixed, 36 critical, out of 106 comments about the project. Thread score -0.16.

Idea: 10 for, 10 againstPrivacy: 2 for, 14 againstPricing: 2 for, 7 againstDesign: 2 for, 0 againstDocs: 0 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Good Next.js integration

    From 1 comment
    • Really good stuff. The Next.js integration story is already really quite good[1] and the Clerk team has really good ideas on how to make it even better and more seamless. It's…
      Rauchg on HN
  • Useful for prototyping and growing products

    From 1 comment
    • I can immediately see how this would be useful for prototyping (and growing) a product! But it might be helpful to include a FAQ answering (at least) the following questions: -…
      hmsimha on HN
  • Fills a gap beyond authentication

    From 1 comment
    • Really good stuff. The Next.js integration story is already really quite good[1] and the Clerk team has really good ideas on how to make it even better and more seamless. It's…
      Rauchg on HN

Objections

  • Trust in a third party holding user data

    From 3 comments
    • This is my question as well. It's an honest question and hopefully someone can educate me. Why would anyone trust a third party with what is the most important asset, their…
      taytus on HN
    • I'm even hesitant to trust Auth0 for this, why would I trust a new company?
      faeyanpiraat on HN
    • I can't speak for anyone else, but I would trust a service like this a lot more if i could easily export all my data. I would do so on a regular basis, basically as a backup. The…
      ziftface on HN
  • Vendor lock-in and no easy data export

    From 3 comments
    • I can't speak for anyone else, but I would trust a service like this a lot more if i could easily export all my data. I would do so on a regular basis, basically as a backup. The…
      ziftface on HN
    • I'm the founder of WorkOS (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22607402) which is sort of close to this so wanted to share a thought or two. WorkOS has taken the alternative…
      grinich on HN
    • I can’t think of a more dangerous way to tie your revenue to someone else’s product. And what if you want to drop this vendor?
      TedDoesntTalk on HN
  • Confusing pricing and free tier limits

    From 2 comments
    • The pricing model has me confused: 1) Pricing is free up to 5,000 MAU 2) But the next pricing grade starts at 1,000 MAU for $49/mo + $0.05/MAU additional so if you have 5,001 MAU…
      rexreed on HN
    • I can immediately see how this would be useful for prototyping (and growing) a product! But it might be helpful to include a FAQ answering (at least) the following questions: -…
      hmsimha on HN
  • Security headers and third-party CDN JS concerns

    From 1 comment
    • I'm probably not the main audience for this, but if you mention security as a top-level feature it might be good to fix these:…
      SahAssar on HN
  • Django and other frameworks already include user management

    From 1 comment
    • As someone who uses Django which has user management out of the box, why would I use a service like this?
      yuppiepuppie on HN

Requests

  • Data export and self-hosted option

    From 2 comments
    • Have you considered offering an on-premise solution? Ideally a docker image you can easily stand up and point to a postgres DB. I can only imagine using this "for real" if I…
      Diggsey on HN
    • I can't speak for anyone else, but I would trust a service like this a lot more if i could easily export all my data. I would do so on a regular basis, basically as a backup. The…
      ziftface on HN
  • Subscription and billing management

    From 2 comments
    • Nice. If you could also add the ability to charge subscriptions from users and manage their subscription plans this would become a no-brainer. Also your pricing model could…
      asimjalis on HN
    • Really cool, love your positioning towards the frontend as frameworks like Django handle the static side fairly well. I can't see it yet but I'm expectant you'd have ancillary…
      kulor on HN
  • Organization and team support

    From 2 comments
    • Do you handle teams? Eg for a b2b SaaS?
      mritchie712 on HN
    • I'll take another look when you start supporting Org features like adding clients with seats. I would love to have something simple to use for an admin product.
      o_____________o on HN
  • Frameworks beyond React and native mobile support

    From 2 comments
    • Are the components only available for React?
      spankalee on HN
    • This is great. Do you have plans to provide any native mobile (iOS/android) support?
      _rohan on HN

Questions

  • How it differs from Auth0, Okta, Cognito and FusionAuth

    From 3 comments
    • Definitely see the need for this but its not that clear to me how it differs from eg FusionAuth which is positioned as an "Auth" solution but actually does everything(?) you call…
      sixhobbits on HN
    • Two questions: 1. Why use this over AWS Cognito? 2. Any intention to manage authorization as well?
      ucarion on HN
    • How do you guys compare your service with Auth0 OR Okta?
      the_arun on HN
  • Whether user schema can be extended with custom attributes

    From 2 comments
    • Is the User schema[1] extensible? Can I add custom attributes or metadata to my users? [1] https://frontend-docs.clerk.dev/object-reference/user
      zorbash on HN
    • What's the story around extensibility? I feel like it starts to get murky when the boundaries of data ownership are unclear. What if I have some bespoke user-level data that…
      colinmorelli on HN
  • SOC 2 compliance

    From 1 comment
  • What happens if the service goes down

    From 1 comment
    • This is very promising! Going down this path now. 2 questions: 1. What happens if you go down? Then our users can’t auth in right? 2. I saw in one of the screenshots the ability…
      catchmeifyoucan on HN

Alternatives named

  • Auth0

    From 2 comments
    • I'm even hesitant to trust Auth0 for this, why would I trust a new company?
      faeyanpiraat on HN
    • How do you guys compare your service with Auth0 OR Okta?
      the_arun on HN
  • Okta

    From 2 comments
    • Looks great and I can see a lot of value in this having been disappointed myself with how much is left to the developer with services like Auth0 and Okta. Could you expand some…
      type_Ben_struct on HN
    • How do you guys compare your service with Auth0 OR Okta?
      the_arun on HN
  • AWS Cognito

    From 1 comment
    • Two questions: 1. Why use this over AWS Cognito? 2. Any intention to manage authorization as well?
      ucarion on HN
  • FusionAuth

    From 1 comment
    • Definitely see the need for this but its not that clear to me how it differs from eg FusionAuth which is positioned as an "Auth" solution but actually does everything(?) you call…
      sixhobbits on HN
  • WorkOS

    From 1 comment
    • I'm the founder of WorkOS (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22607402) which is sort of close to this so wanted to share a thought or two. WorkOS has taken the alternative…
      grinich on HN

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