Endgame

Security and privacy

cloud security pentesting

SHOW HN2021

368points
93comments
#87of 2,533 in 2021
Top 4%of 2021 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

10 positive, 47 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 7 critical, out of 65 comments about the project. Thread score +0.03.

Idea: 3 for, 5 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 againstDesign: 1 for, 0 againstDocs: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Good documentation and useful for audits

    From 2 comments
    • Impressive tool, but the supporting documentation is what I appreciate most. I think the prevention guide could be improved by providing an example service control policy that…
      nic-waller on HN
    • It is great that it is Public because as it will create some sense of urgency. Similar to how you expose a Bug on Aurora like following, every such finding will…
      avi_vallarapu on HN
  • Useful for red team and auto-remediation testing

    From 3 comments
    • for me, my environments are in different AWS accounts and can be torn down and stood back up rather quickly. so it wouldn't be a big deal to let this destroy a dev environment in…
      stevehawk on HN
    • Exposing resources to a specific "evil principal" via Endgame would be reasonable in some attack simulations/red team engagements
      ramimac on HN
    • To test autoremediation and alerting. At least in the environment I'm evolving these days it makes sense.
      hnjst on HN

Objections

  • Dangerous if misconfigurations are exploited; risky to run non-dry-run

    From 2 comments
    • I work with AWS a lot every day and lead a team responsible for building workloads on AWS for some customers with very high security requirements. This tool terrifies me. The…
      ManWith2Plans on HN
    • Can someone explain why you'd ever want to run this in the non-dryrun mode? I understand that if you have these problems you've already effectively granted those permissions…
      tbrock on HN
  • Not real pentesting; only shows what given credentials can do

    From 2 comments
    • > First, authenticate to AWS CLI using credentials to the victim's account. ... right. This is just a glorified "what can this IAM user do" tool. There is literally no actual…
      urda on HN
    • Except it's not "Pentesting tool to backdoor" anything. It's simply modifying an access given you already have credentials to do that. You can do the same with aws cli (oh horror…
      hrez on HN

Requests

  • Make dry-run the default

    From 2 comments
    • dry run should be the default, and for you to actually do damage, you should explicitly run with a flag like `--commit` or `--deploy-evil-payload "yes I am certain of this"`
      gchamonlive on HN
    • Yes please, thanks!!
      Serow225 on HN

Questions

  • Why was the repository taken down?

    From 2 comments
    • Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is being taken down? Hacking tools are released all the time. Why did this one make such a big ripple in the pond?
      vorticalbox on HN
    • Anybody have a mirror? It seems to have been taken down from GitHub. Also I guess it might have been a not so nice from an almost direct competitor of AWS - salesforce - to…
      sdfhbdf on HN

Alternatives named

  • Pacu

    From 1 comment
    • There are a lot of other tools in this space and people that specialize in AWS pentesting. Another popular tool is Pacu:…
      poxrud on HN
  • CloudQuery

    From 1 comment
    • Cool. Another tool in the space - https://github.com/cloudquery/cloudquery open-source framework to ask questions about your cloud infrastructure with SQL.
      yevpats on HN
  • Cloud Custodian

    From 1 comment
    • fwiw the opensource (and cncf incubator project) https://cloudcustodian.io can detect and remediate these modifications to embedded iam policies (across many resource types) in…
      kapilvt on HN

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