Wormhole

Security and privacy

encrypted file sharing

SHOW HN2021

97points
49comments
#541of 2,533 in 2021
Top 22%of 2021 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

9 positive, 10 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 5 critical, out of 25 comments about the project. Thread score +0.12.

Idea: 2 for, 0 againstDesign: 1 for, 1 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 1 againstPricing: 1 for, 0 againstPerformance: 1 for, 0 against

The thread, comment by comment

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Fast and easy to use

    From 4 comments
    • This is insanely fast, wow Love the animation too
      nfsiddiqui on HN
    • Very impressive, excited to try this out!
      andrethegiant on HN
    • This really is wonderful, pleasant and incredibly easy to use. A lot of thought must have gone into making the process as streamlined and secure as possible - well done! The…
      jayelbe on HN
    • Nice job, this works pretty well! I will say, however, that the background animation (even on the landing page, before sending) spinning up my laptop fans is a bit unwelcome.…
      LVB on HN
  • End-to-end encryption by default

    From 1 comment
    • This is sweet!! It's kind of amazing to me how annoying it is to still send large files in 2021. Default end to end encryption is huge here too. Kudos for such a clean and…
      bgu33 on HN

Objections

  • Name collides with Magic Wormhole and other wormhole tools

    From 3 comments
    • Yeah, this name collision is kind of odd. From what I see elsewhere it's a custom implementation, but it feels like it wouldn't take much googling to find existing literature…
      Klonoar on HN
    • Pretty ridiculous to take the same name as another (more famous) product that does the same thing. Have you talked to a lawyer about changing the name?
      neolog on HN
    • Please consider rebranding.
      jsilence on HN
  • Background animation spins up fans or causes motion sickness

    From 2 comments
    • Nice job, this works pretty well! I will say, however, that the background animation (even on the landing page, before sending) spinning up my laptop fans is a bit unwelcome.…
      LVB on HN
    • This really is wonderful, pleasant and incredibly easy to use. A lot of thought must have gone into making the process as streamlined and secure as possible - well done! The…
      jayelbe on HN
  • Trust in encryption claims without open source client

    From 1 comment
    • How do we know if the file is really encrypted? How do we really know that the key is not uploaded to the server? Unless there is ability to view the source code for the client,…
      pritambarhate on HN

Requests

  • Open source the client and cryptography code

    From 1 comment
    • Auditing a web app is a challenging prospect with current web technologies. We really need a better way to "pin" a site to a current version and only update it with user consent.…
      feross on HN
  • Support reduced motion and an option to disable the animation

    From 2 comments
    • The CSS prefers-reduced-motion media query could also be handy here :) https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-reduced-motion
      cryo on HN
    • This really is wonderful, pleasant and incredibly easy to use. A lot of thought must have gone into making the process as streamlined and secure as possible - well done! The…
      jayelbe on HN
  • Instant expire button for links

    From 1 comment
    • how about adding something like an instant expire button which lets you expire the link before the 24 hr period. Great Tool!
      Ni9ht_5ury on HN
  • Longer retention than 24 hours or a paid option for semi-permanent links

    From 2 comments
    • This really is wonderful, pleasant and incredibly easy to use. A lot of thought must have gone into making the process as streamlined and secure as possible - well done! The…
      jayelbe on HN
    • Excellent work! If there was a way to pay for semi-permanent links (a month?) I would probably cough up!
      confounded on HN

Questions

  • How is the business sustained long term

    From 2 comments
    • given Firefox Send was challenged in monetizing their product, what do you have in mind to keep this going as a product/business?
      propogandist on HN
    • I'm curious about this as well -- it's absolutely great to have a Firefox Send equivalent back, but how long can this sustain itself?
      lacavao on HN
  • Is the URL-as-key approach secure enough

    From 1 comment
    • Very cool. Genuine question: is using the URL as the encryption key considered secured enough for most usecases? I imagine most people share these links via email, and if you or…
      kimar on HN
  • Is the project open source

    From 1 comment
    • Wormhole.app looks great! I use P2P instant file sharing websites like webwormhole.io and file.pizza extensively and so this is a welcome upgrade. I used Pirate Bay's now-defunct…
      ignoramous on HN

Alternatives named

  • Magic Wormhole

    From 1 comment
    • Is this related to the existing Magic Wormhole encrypted file transfer application (which is called "wormhole" on the command line)?…
      wolverine876 on HN
  • webwormhole.io

    From 2 comments
    • There is also another - webwormhole https://github.com/saljam/webwormhole / https://webwormhole.io/
      lburton on HN
    • Wormhole.app looks great! I use P2P instant file sharing websites like webwormhole.io and file.pizza extensively and so this is a welcome upgrade. I used Pirate Bay's now-defunct…
      ignoramous on HN
  • OnionShare

    From 1 comment
    • As it is a beautiful piece of technology, in this context I have to mention https://onionshare.org/ It is p2p file transfer without a central server required. All done on top of…
      l1am0 on HN
  • Firefox Send

    From 1 comment
    • There's no relation to magic-wormhole. wormhole.app is an independent design and implementation. It's a similar in spirit to Firefox Send (and uses the same ECE streaming…
      feross on HN
  • file.pizza

    From 1 comment
    • Wormhole.app looks great! I use P2P instant file sharing websites like webwormhole.io and file.pizza extensively and so this is a welcome upgrade. I used Pirate Bay's now-defunct…
      ignoramous on HN

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