sanipasse

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health pass verification

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35points
81comments
#1,059of 2,533 in 2021
Top 42%of 2021 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

2 positive, 12 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 9 critical, out of 23 comments about the project. Thread score -0.27.

Privacy: 1 for, 4 againstIdea: 1 for, 2 againstExecution: 0 for, 2 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Storing only a status flag avoids keeping sensitive data.

    From 1 comment
    • > The list of participants to a sport competition has never been considered medical data That's obviously quite different here. > a yes in the database means that you have been…
      mytailorisrich on HN

Objections

  • Storing attendance status may count as health data under French rules.

    From 2 comments
    • "In the backend, it has a small SQL database which stores no personal information: just the list of invitees and their status." This status is private medical information : in…
      mlok on HN
    • In fact you are processing health data because you decode the QR code. Therefore you must implement HDS valid data treatments and policy
      yanjost on HN
  • Paper health passes are easy to forge.

    From 2 comments
    • In Germany this paper is just that, a paper. It has 0 safety measurements. You can get blank ones for cheap, via the internet or your doctor. From Biontech or the other vaccine…
      carstenhag on HN
    • The danish one has even less safety features, because it is your choice whether to use a printed document (which you can download as a PDF that you can then edit), through the…
      tomjen3 on HN
  • Health passes are a step toward totalitarian control.

    From 2 comments
    • A year ago in France the health pass was publicly dismissed by officials as a conspiracy theory that belonged to sci-fi literature. Six months later it became "well there are…
      hubadu on HN
    • I find the principle of a "health pass" a little disturbing. Do we want to live in a society where we have to prove something about our health in order to attend events ?
      iamarealperson on HN

Requests

  • Use a QR code with less personal data instead of a database.

    From 2 comments
    • > But starting from that, can we implement what seemed to be the initial goal stated in the government's document ? why not simply having 2 QR codes, one full, one light ... ?
      wazari972 on HN
    • I don't get it why we can't store something in centralised database, provided it's encrypted via key that only user has (NFC or on QR code itself). Present one key for events,…
      dzhiurgis on HN

Questions

  • Whether the stored status counts as medical data.

    From 2 comments
    • "In the backend, it has a small SQL database which stores no personal information: just the list of invitees and their status." This status is private medical information : in…
      mlok on HN
    • The list of participants to a sport competition has never been considered medical data (the CNIL even mentions that explicitly), even though it correlates with your medical…
      lovasoa on HN

Alternatives named

  • TousAntiCovid official government app.

    From 1 comment
    • This app/website have nothing to do with official french government or authorities. It's an open source project [0] for those who eventualy don't want to use official app [0]…
      JeanMarcS on HN

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