Should I Get a House?

Finance and crypto

rent vs buy calculator

SHOW HN2021

203points
410comments
#227of 2,533 in 2021
Top 9%of 2021 by points

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2 positive, 39 neutral or asking, 4 mixed, 20 critical, out of 65 comments about the project. Thread score -0.33.

Idea: 1 for, 14 againstExecution: 1 for, 5 againstPricing: 0 for, 1 against

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What people liked

  • Useful, better than existing calculators

    From 3 comments
    • Thanks for posting - this is really helpful (reminds me of this similar NYT tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/buy-rent-calculator.html) A few notes: - "Final…
      cmpolis on HN
    • This would be better if it included a slider for what yearly investment return you would expect for assets not in a house. If I don't spend my down-payment on a house, I'll put…
      dynm on HN
    • Based on checking a 500k house with a 50k down payment, this tells me PMI will be about 2k/year for the first 3 years. Is it really that cheap? Is there any reason to not go for…
      silicon2401 on HN

Objections

  • Ignores opportunity cost of investing the down payment

    From 4 comments
    • Maybe I am just missing it, but I don't see how this factors in the fact that you could invest the same money in the market.
      sly010 on HN
    • This doesn't consider the opportunity cost of having more money now for other investments. Say an index fund or what have you. That's fine but I don't think the rent vs. buy…
      tsujp on HN
    • Ignores opportunity cost of having invested cashflow difference in assets of comparable risk
      j-sizz on HN
    • This is a neat tool! There’s one more feature I’d want before using it seriously, which is a field for stock market return rate. If my down payment is 50,000, then in the rental…
      c4m on HN
  • Maintenance budget default of $2500 is too low

    From 1 comment
    • Anyone have luck with that default $2500 maintenance budget? My lawn guy is basically that whole budget. Any service call is $500 minimum. I’ve replaced roofs, siding, HVAC…
      conductr on HN
  • PMI removal logic is inaccurate

    From 1 comment
    • This looks great! A couple of comments: - some (large?) portion of mortgages will not allow PMI to be removed until you either a) inject cash to get to 20% equity or b) get to…
      runako on HN
  • Inflation handling ignores house prices

    From 1 comment
    • House prices are not included in inflation estimates, rental prices are. That's another thing that should be considered.
      pestatije on HN

Requests

  • Add stock market return rate input

    From 2 comments
    • This would be better if it included a slider for what yearly investment return you would expect for assets not in a house. If I don't spend my down-payment on a house, I'll put…
      dynm on HN
    • This is a neat tool! There’s one more feature I’d want before using it seriously, which is a field for stock market return rate. If my down payment is 50,000, then in the rental…
      c4m on HN
  • Add rent growth factor

    From 2 comments
    • This looks great! A couple of comments: - some (large?) portion of mortgages will not allow PMI to be removed until you either a) inject cash to get to 20% equity or b) get to…
      runako on HN
    • add a rent-increase rate. most landlords bump rent every signing.
      ruined on HN
  • Clearer labels such as Apartment and House and Final Cumulative Profit

    From 2 comments
    • "Apartment" means rent and "House" means buying? I think that's confusing. It would be nice to auto update the graph every time something changes. It's nice that it has tips. Hi…
      gus_massa on HN
    • Thanks for posting - this is really helpful (reminds me of this similar NYT tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/buy-rent-calculator.html) A few notes: - "Final…
      cmpolis on HN

Questions

  • Does the tool account for intangible or lifestyle factors

    From 2 comments
    • Where do I enter the intangible value of owning: "Don't have to worry about getting priced out if the neighborhood becomes popular; can do any improvements I want, when I want,…
      drfuchs on HN
    • There's no way to put this into a calculator, but this decision isn't purely monetary. Do you enjoy having to maintain a home and property? If not, maybe buying a house isn't for…
      bachmeier on HN

Alternatives named

  • NYT rent vs buy calculator

    From 2 comments
    • Mega-Classic from The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/buy-rent-calculator.html A beautiful, in-depth calculator to answer "Is it better to rent or…
      yboris on HN
    • This looks great! For those going through the process, I also found this tool helpful in determining whether to rent vs. buy:…
      bechap on HN
  • Michael Bluejay rent vs buy calculator

    From 1 comment
    • This is a pretty good attempt, but I've yet to find a calculator that is as comprehensive as this gem. https://michaelbluejay.com/house/rentvsbuy.html The site may not be flashy…
      joshfee on HN

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