sub.live

Creative

music collaboration

SHOW HN2021

236points
119comments
#173of 2,533 in 2021
Top 7%of 2021 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

6 positive, 15 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 10 critical, out of 33 comments about the project. Thread score -0.06.

Performance: 3 for, 5 againstIdea: 1 for, 4 againstDesign: 2 for, 0 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Latency is low enough to jam between UK and Denmark.

    From 2 comments
    • Heya - I recently made a desktop app that lets you jam live with your friends over the internet. You can read more about how it works here => https://sub.live - but essentially…
      weepy on HN
    • Actually I can jam with ease with my friends in London from Denmark. That's over 1000km. And if you don't believe me - check the testimonials on https://sub.live ^_^ Also you…
      weepy on HN
  • Clear product positioning and a useful idea.

    From 1 comment
    • Wow. I really like the positioning of your product: the audience and value proposition are crystal clear. I'm going to share this with my musician friends and see what they have…
      koopuluri on HN

Objections

  • WebRTC could achieve similar results; the claimed novelty is overstated.

    From 1 comment
    • I may be missing something but this appears to me to be a WebRTC application. It is very easy to build something like this using any modern browser's WebRTC APIs, just disable…
      audray on HN
  • Latency over WiFi and long distances may be too high for many users.

    From 2 comments
    • It's good that latency is considered to be so critical, but for the same reason I'm sceptical that this would work well for the majority beyond quite local ranges with very good…
      tomxor on HN
    • I don't get these realtime collaborative streaming services. Streaming at home via wifi is already crappy, how should this ever work with more distance?
      k__ on HN

Requests

  • Release a Linux version.

    From 1 comment
    • Would be amazing if this could be released as a Linux binary as well. Me and many of my friends are on a P2P mesh network, I'm sure we can push the latency down to below 20ms…
      capableweb on HN
  • Open source the project.

    From 1 comment
    • This is super cool. I’ve been formulating a similar idea for a while now. I’m building a desktop utility for guitarists using clojurescript and Tauri. I also wonder if this can…
      tytrdev on HN
  • Add a VST plugin.

    From 1 comment
    • I had assumed this would be a VST plug-in so you could integrate everyone into (for example) an Ableton Live set with whatever other audio/midi manipulation you want.
      emerged on HN

Questions

  • Is it open source?

    From 1 comment
    • This is super cool. I’ve been formulating a similar idea for a while now. I’m building a desktop utility for guitarists using clojurescript and Tauri. I also wonder if this can…
      tytrdev on HN
  • How does it compare to JamKazam and Jamulus?

    From 2 comments
    • I'm very interested in this! Can you say how this compares to something like https://jamkazam.com? One of my issues with JK is that it seems to require all participants to be…
      jp57 on HN
    • Thanks for making this. It looks worth giving a try. Some friends and I get together roughly weekly using Jamulus. We're playing mostly jazz standards. We have gotten latency…
      analog31 on HN

Alternatives named

  • Jamulus

    From 2 comments
    • Thanks for making this. It looks worth giving a try. Some friends and I get together roughly weekly using Jamulus. We're playing mostly jazz standards. We have gotten latency…
      analog31 on HN
    • My experience with Jamulus might be instructive. Members of our group live in the same city (Kingston, Ontario) but use two ISPs. Packets between users on the same ISP were fine…
      rdtennent on HN
  • Sonobus

    From 1 comment
    • I'm guessing that most people reading this are not familiar with some of the other options available for this kind of thing. In particular, they likely don't know about Sonobus:…
      PaulDavisThe1st on HN
  • JamKazam

    From 1 comment
    • I'm very interested in this! Can you say how this compares to something like https://jamkazam.com? One of my issues with JK is that it seems to require all participants to be…
      jp57 on HN
  • Endlesss

    From 1 comment
    • I think https://endlesss.fm got the approach to jamming over the internet right. Instead of trying to reduce latency (which you simply cannot do beyond speed of light) endlesss…
      deeblering4 on HN
  • JACK Trip

    From 1 comment
    • Checkout https://jacktrip.org/studio.html. We enable low latency audio connection through open source technology developed at Stanford. We can scale to hundreds of users signing…
      arctan5x on HN

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