Hibiki HTML
Languages and libraries
frontend framework
SHOW HN2022
How HN took it
6 positive, 15 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 30 critical, out of 51 comments about the project. Thread score -0.40.
Idea: 5 for, 12 againstPricing: 1 for, 6 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 againstPerformance: 0 for, 1 against
The thread, comment by comment
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What HN said
What people liked
Interesting idea for avoiding JavaScript tooling
From 2 comments
What's old is new again-- this very much resembles Angular.js (ie Angular 1)'s strategy (not to say this isn't a valid approach given the constraints). Any notable differences…
rezonant on HNLooks great! Reminds me a bit of Stimulus (https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/handbook/introduction) in terms of philosophy and motivation, which I love using.
shafyy on HN
Objections
Custom non-OSI license is a dealbreaker for many users
From 3 comments
I really, really want to use this -- but I urge you to put under a regular MIT or (A)GPL license. Something that's proper F/OSS, please! As it stands, I can't incorporate Hibiki…
notRobot on HNThe "modified MIT" license is a dealbreaker.
rubyist5eva on HN> It is licensed under a modified form of the MIT license (similar in spirit to the Confluent open source license) which allows you to use Hibiki HTML without restrictions for…
SahAssar on HN
License restriction on customizable products is vague
From 2 comments
> You may not use this Software to make any product (commercial, free, or open-source), software-as-a-service (SaaS), platform-as-a-service (PaaS), or infrastructure-as-a-service…
henning on HNThe Open-Source-ish license is a bit of danger zone. > You just can't create a SaaS service offering a hosted version of Hibiki HTML or one that uses the Hibiki HTML language to…
lf-non on HN
Tutorial page is blank without JavaScript despite no-JS claim
From 1 comment
> Hibiki [..] lets you create [..] frontend applications without JavaScript Yet the website is a blank white page, without JavaScript.
lunch on HN
Requests
Switch to a standard open-source license such as MIT or AGPL
From 2 comments
I really, really want to use this -- but I urge you to put under a regular MIT or (A)GPL license. Something that's proper F/OSS, please! As it stands, I can't incorporate Hibiki…
notRobot on HNOn licensing: I recommend taking a look at the PolyForm Project’s form licenses: https://polyformproject.org/licenses/. PolyForm Shield…
chrismorgan on HN
Support standard web components and plain JS/HTML
From 2 comments
Have you considered basing your work on standard web components? They also don't require any scaffolding or building to be used. Sprinkle some binding sugar on top using Lit and…
difosfor on HNNo, don't follow the VUE path, don't add your own invented format. Let us just write standard js/html.
tigrezno on HN
Questions
How does it compare to htmx
From 1 comment
Sounds similar to htmx[0], which I like! I wonder if someone has worked with both htmx and Hibiki, and can compare the two experiences? [0] https://htmx.org
harryvederci on HN
What does it provide over plain HTML and JS
From 1 comment
I read the intro page and skimmed the rest of the tutorial, and am left this this: What does this provide over HTML/JS?
the__alchemist on HN
Alternatives named
htmx
From 2 comments
Sounds similar to htmx[0], which I like! I wonder if someone has worked with both htmx and Hibiki, and can compare the two experiences? [0] https://htmx.org
harryvederci on HNhtmx is really cool, but definitely different. Hibiki is a lot heavier and so it is more appropriate for internal tools, prototypes, dashboards, etc. as opposed to fast/quick…
sawka on HN
Angular.js
From 1 comment
What's old is new again-- this very much resembles Angular.js (ie Angular 1)'s strategy (not to say this isn't a valid approach given the constraints). Any notable differences…
rezonant on HN
Svelte
From 1 comment
IME, scaffolding/config is overkill only if it complicates the developer experience. I stayed away from Angular, React, Vue, etc. because there were too many ways to scaffold and…
turtlebits on HN
Stimulus
From 1 comment
Looks great! Reminds me a bit of Stimulus (https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/handbook/introduction) in terms of philosophy and motivation, which I love using.
shafyy on HN