Brevity 500

Learning and science

writing education

SHOW HN2022

193points
70comments
#297of 2,570 in 2022
Top 12%of 2022 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

8 positive, 10 neutral or asking, 7 mixed, 15 critical, out of 40 comments about the project. Thread score -0.21.

Idea: 4 for, 4 againstDesign: 2 for, 5 againstExecution: 0 for, 3 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Interesting, fun concept for learning writing

    From 3 comments
    • I think both the idea and execution are great. These games would be useful even just as problem statements. I like that each problem clearly defines the desired tone and goals,…
      reifyx on HN
    • Fun project, thanks for sharing!
      infogulch on HN
    • Fun! Unfortunately, this leans into the fact that I tend to be brief-to-a--fault.
      hammerbrostime on HN
  • Games are a good way to practise brevity

    From 2 comments
    • 0. Congrats on shipping. 1. This is really cool. Also scary. I think I might be the target market for this, I've long known that communication is my greatest professional…
      loxias on HN
    • Cool! I love educational games and think they should be created more often. Small bit of feedback that might be helpful: set a max width for your website. Currently it stretches…
      csallen on HN

Objections

  • Automated validity checks are weak; mangled text can score well

    From 2 comments
    • A nit: introduction seems to say that the required words or phrases will still be available during the game, but I didn't see any highlighting and had to remember. (Firefox)…
      fourthark on HN
    • Well that was a waste of time. The site presents a phrase (mine was scraped from a blog post), and after several clicks asks you to rewrite it more concisely while retaining…
      rkagerer on HN
  • Timer adds pressure without learning value

    From 2 comments
    • Conceptually, I really like this. Congratulations on getting it out there, and thank you for sharing. The implementation confuses me though. It's not clear at first that all…
      elefantastisch on HN
    • I think both the idea and execution are great. These games would be useful even just as problem statements. I like that each problem clearly defines the desired tone and goals,…
      reifyx on HN
  • Brevity is not the same as quality

    From 1 comment
    • I don't agree with equating brevity and quality. There's a definite trend in marketing/business communication to cut everything down to the bare bones and call that quality. At…
      Peritract on HN
  • Required terms are hidden behind an info button and are hard to find

    From 3 comments
    • Calling these exercises "Games" is a stretch. Also: Extra points if your good at memorizing a list of arbitrary words that must be included, and you're a good touch typist. In…
      UmYeahNo on HN
    • A nit: introduction seems to say that the required words or phrases will still be available during the game, but I didn't see any highlighting and had to remember. (Firefox)…
      fourthark on HN
    • Mobile phone offers noplace to edit the original text. What am I doing wrong?
      thimkerbell on HN
  • Mobile layout does not work well

    From 2 comments
    • Mobile phone offers noplace to edit the original text. What am I doing wrong?
      thimkerbell on HN
    • I see no on-screen keyboard. I cannot get one to appear. How should I be typing, without one?
      thimkerbell on HN

Requests

  • Show original text and required terms alongside the editor

    From 3 comments
    • Conceptually, I really like this. Congratulations on getting it out there, and thank you for sharing. The implementation confuses me though. It's not clear at first that all…
      elefantastisch on HN
    • 0. Congrats on shipping. 1. This is really cool. Also scary. I think I might be the target market for this, I've long known that communication is my greatest professional…
      loxias on HN
    • I think both the idea and execution are great. These games would be useful even just as problem statements. I like that each problem clearly defines the desired tone and goals,…
      reifyx on HN
  • Cheaper trial tier before the full paid plan

    From 1 comment
    • 0. Congrats on shipping. 1. This is really cool. Also scary. I think I might be the target market for this, I've long known that communication is my greatest professional…
      loxias on HN
  • Difficulty levels or scoring

    From 2 comments
    • 0. Congrats on shipping. 1. This is really cool. Also scary. I think I might be the target market for this, I've long known that communication is my greatest professional…
      loxias on HN
    • I like this! Although, I thought "games" would be different kinds of exercises, not just different prompts, so I am mildly disappointed :) As others have said, I think the…
      riffraff on HN
  • Show several valid rewrites and user submissions

    From 2 comments
    • 0. Congrats on shipping. 1. This is really cool. Also scary. I think I might be the target market for this, I've long known that communication is my greatest professional…
      loxias on HN
    • Congratulations on shipping! Stray thoughts: - From "Play" to the actual game is 6 clicks. I'd much prefer 2 or fewer. - Might be even more fun or game-like to work with text on…
      akprasad on HN

Questions

  • Is the timer necessary

    From 2 comments
    • Conceptually, I really like this. Congratulations on getting it out there, and thank you for sharing. The implementation confuses me though. It's not clear at first that all…
      elefantastisch on HN
    • I think both the idea and execution are great. These games would be useful even just as problem statements. I like that each problem clearly defines the desired tone and goals,…
      reifyx on HN
  • How the validity of a response is judged

    From 1 comment
    • Conceptually, I really like this. Congratulations on getting it out there, and thank you for sharing. The implementation confuses me though. It's not clear at first that all…
      elefantastisch on HN

Alternatives named

  • Elevate Brain Training sentence simplification exercise

    From 1 comment
    • This is a nice start, and succinct writing is a valuable skill. For a serious student of writing, the automated feedback is insufficient. Human feedback would be most useful.…
      entwife on HN
  • Professional writing courses

    From 1 comment
    • Thanks for such thorough feedback! > 3. There's a "Show Required" button in the bottom-left of the gameplay screen (i.e., the screen with the timer) that shows the original text…
      moksha256 on HN

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