Ably Host
Web and SaaS
site hosting proxy
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Top 57%of 2022 by points
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RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical
1 positive, 4 neutral or asking, 4 mixed, 11 critical, out of 20 comments about the project. Thread score -0.40.
Pricing: 0 for, 3 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 3 againstIdea: 1 for, 0 against
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What people liked
Interesting concept and use case for moving content between hosts
From 3 comments
I like the concept here Motyar! Will be interesting to see how origin services interact with it, as others have said. Best of luck!
imdsm on HNI have mixed feelings about this. It seems wrong to strip the branding and has obvious copyright issues. However, there really is a use case for using web services to build…
7952 on HNI see an ethical aspect of this in data portability: it should be possible to create your web site in one service and then migrate it to another one for hosting (it's your…
tuukkah on HN
Objections
Copyright infringement and profiting from copied sites
From 3 comments
Can you spell "copyright infringement" and "disgorgement of your profits from the infringement"? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/504
dctoedt on HNFrom what I gather this can be abused to steal websites. Very cool concept though.
besnn00 on HNBubble, Webflow and Notion will not be happy that your service takes their custom domain revenue. How much are you prepared to deal with the legal and technical roadblocks they…
julius on HN
Enables phishing and copied-site abuse
From 2 comments
Do you have a plan to avoid turning this into a dream tool for phishing attacks?
tiborsaas on HNWebsite of the friend of mine got copied this way. Weird traffic was detected with some analytics tools and then we thought: 1. Why would anybody do anything like that? 2. How do…
chaoz_ on HN
Circumvents other providers' paid custom domain plans
From 2 comments
> You have your web pages and forms built on other platforms like Bubble, Webflow, Notion, etc. And want to move those webpages under your own "domain name" without using their…
nkrisc on HNPhysical analogies are never great for digital, but they’re selling movie tickets at the back door of someone else’s theater. Will definitely be interesting to see how these…
nkrisc on HN
Source sites can block proxy by IP or domain
From 2 comments
So it's proxying the original site/page through their own platform using your domain named pointed at their server. What happens when the original sites start blocking requests…
Jaruzel on HNIframes can be blocked quite easily from the origin, so it’s only a solution as long as they deem it to be. And many sites block by default. Would there be any way for the origin…
RileyJames on HN
Cookies and auth tokens not handled
From 2 comments
Clever, I can see the need for this. Are you caching, or proxying every request? What do you do about cookies?
paulgb on HNIf the service you are proxying offers authentication based on token within cookies, does that mean that you will have access to tokens hosted on the client side? Should you…
BeniBoy on HN
Requests
Ownership verification before copying a site
From 1 comment
You can require the content creator to add a specific confirmation code / page to their site and you check that before you enable the copying.
tuukkah on HN
Add caching or a proper import option
From 1 comment
I see an ethical aspect of this in data portability: it should be possible to create your web site in one service and then migrate it to another one for hosting (it's your…
tuukkah on HN
Questions
How will copyright and legal issues be handled?
From 2 comments
Bubble, Webflow and Notion will not be happy that your service takes their custom domain revenue. How much are you prepared to deal with the legal and technical roadblocks they…
julius on HNCan you spell "copyright infringement" and "disgorgement of your profits from the infringement"? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/504
dctoedt on HN
How will the service handle abuse and copied sites?
From 2 comments
Website of the friend of mine got copied this way. Weird traffic was detected with some analytics tools and then we thought: 1. Why would anybody do anything like that? 2. How do…
chaoz_ on HNYes, that's the main issue I am concerned about, suggest if you have any idea.
motyar on HN
Does it proxy every request or cache?
From 2 comments
Clever, I can see the need for this. Are you caching, or proxying every request? What do you do about cookies?
paulgb on HNNothing for cookies, yes it proxy. no caching.
motyar on HN
Alternatives named
Iframes and APIs
From 2 comments
That is why they said “even iframe” because you get about 80% of the way with an iframe.
mosselman on HNI have mixed feelings about this. It seems wrong to strip the branding and has obvious copyright issues. However, there really is a use case for using web services to build…
7952 on HN
Custom domain plans of Bubble, Webflow and Notion
From 1 comment
Bubble, Webflow and Notion will not be happy that your service takes their custom domain revenue. How much are you prepared to deal with the legal and technical roadblocks they…
julius on HN