Linen
Productivity
team chat
SHOW HN2022
292points
76comments
#147of 2,570 in 2022
Top 6%of 2022 by points
How HN took it
DebatedReal support and real criticism
9 positive, 11 neutral or asking, 3 mixed, 9 critical, out of 32 comments about the project. Thread score -0.06.
Idea: 4 for, 6 againstExecution: 0 for, 2 againstDesign: 1 for, 0 against
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What HN said
What people liked
Google-searchable community content is a useful differentiator
From 2 comments
Having these communities google searchable is actually a really cool feature. I don't understand why companies create "open" communities (that are mostly dead anyway) and…
ogarten on HNThank you for the detailes response. This is a killer feature that can help Linen differentiate from others I guess. Good luck
wanderingmind on HN
Feed view and !mention distinction are well designed
From 2 comments
Really glad to see the work to take these tools to the next level. The feed view and the !mention are great tools, and have long been needed!
drewbeck on HNThis looks great. For public communities / support things I start in the future I'll seriously consider it. For my _current_ non-work slack things.... i really _don't_ want them…
masukomi on HN
Objections
Crowded space; Mattermost, Matrix and Zulip already cover this
From 2 comments
If I'm an organization choosing a chat platform, why would I want to use Linen versus Mattermost, which is also self-hostable and open-source, and much more mature? Or Matrix and…
JonathonW on HNThe problem of new chat platforms these days is they bring nothing new to table compare to already available opensource chat platforms. matrix is leader in that space thanks to…
v3ss0n on HN
Zulip already offers public indexable channels
From 2 comments
Zulip have web community support. https://blog.zulip.com/2022/05/05/public-access-option/
v3ss0n on HNYes, Zulip chats and histories can be published and indexed as an opt-in feature.
nightpool on HN
Requests
Add GitHub login
From 1 comment
Looks really nice, I've looking to migrate away from Gitter, whose development stopped already long ago. For open source project support channel use, I'd strongly recommend…
otsaloma on HN
Ability to disable Google indexing for private communities
From 1 comment
This looks great. For public communities / support things I start in the future I'll seriously consider it. For my _current_ non-work slack things.... i really _don't_ want them…
masukomi on HN
Matrix or IRC gateway support
From 2 comments
We love Mattermost for our organization; it feels nicer to use it over Slack/Discord because we're also FOSS. Our next iteration is to be moving to a more protocol oriented…
openthc on HNBut does it have an IRC gateway?
LtWorf on HN
Questions
How does it compare to Matrix and Zulip for search?
From 2 comments
So how's this better than matrix on one of the major free home servers? Better archives and exposure to search engines?
yjftsjthsd-h on HNWhat might be useful is having an example comparison of how SEO indexing can make Linen standout compared to Zulip when searching for chat messages.
wanderingmind on HN
Is it self-hostable?
From 2 comments
Pitty, I thought it was software that can be self hosted. I have a few potential applications. Is anyone aware of any open source high performance chat/community solutions that…
lakomen on HNAre you sure it's not self-hostable? https://github.com/Linen-dev/linen.dev/blob/main/docs/nextjs.md#getting-started seems to imply there's a local dev story. While I'm not…
mdaniel on HN
Alternatives named
Zulip
From 2 comments
What are your thoughts on Zulip? Their priorities and yours seem to align. I see you have threads but they look more like Discord threads rather than how Zulip does them.
dizhn on HNReally nice work, and it's very pretty... so I feel bad for saying this.. Zulip has really won my heart. It's not perfect, but up-front nature of the threads, the ease of…
dijit on HN
Mattermost
From 1 comment
If I'm an organization choosing a chat platform, why would I want to use Linen versus Mattermost, which is also self-hostable and open-source, and much more mature? Or Matrix and…
JonathonW on HN
Matrix and Element
From 2 comments
If I'm an organization choosing a chat platform, why would I want to use Linen versus Mattermost, which is also self-hostable and open-source, and much more mature? Or Matrix and…
JonathonW on HNThe more I use Matrix and Element, the more convinced that its the way to go. The ability to see lf-host, e2e encryption, optional federation... And if you use Element you get…
infinitezest on HN
Rocket.Chat
From 1 comment
See also: rocket.chat, and xmpp/jabber.
e12e on HN