Logging in with QR codes (proof of concept)

Security and privacy

qr code authentication

SHOW HN2011

86points
39comments
#135of 1,097 in 2011
Top 13%of 2011 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

6 positive, 8 neutral or asking, 3 mixed, 3 critical, out of 20 comments about the project. Thread score +0.13.

Idea: 6 for, 2 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Interesting or neat concept

    From 4 comments
    • I like this concept and love what you showed using it. I just have no real practical use for it at the moment. Would love to see it being used though.
      joshmanders on HN
    • Now that's a very interesting concept!
      sarbogast on HN
    • brilliant thought!
      coolk on HN
    • I like this idea. I don't think QR codes are being used to their full potential. The standard is definite for how to create QR codes, but I don't like how there are no written…
      conradev on HN
  • Convenient for typing logins on mobile

    From 1 comment
    • I had this idea a few months back but didn't have any reason to develop it, I assume many others have done too and I would love to see it used. The basic use case for me was when…
      citricsquid on HN

Objections

  • Session cookies can be stolen by malware, so it does not fully secure login

    From 1 comment
    • First of all: All modern malware/botnets steal session cookies in real time and then log in and perform any automated task they're programmed to. All you're protecting is a…
      peterwwillis on HN
  • Scanning with a phone is slower than typing a short code

    From 2 comments
    • I don't understand this obsession with QR codes. Why not just generate a short code and have the user type it in.
      anonymous on HN
    • first of all why would I have to grab my phone, unlock it and run a code scanner if I already have my hands on the keyboard? it makes totally no sense. qr codes are cool so you…
      zalew on HN
  • Only a second factor, not a full replacement; lost phone needs a recovery path

    From 1 comment
    • It would only work as a alternative (definitely a more convenient one) to something like Google's two factor auth app with one time passwords, not a complete replacement. If the…
      spacemanaki on HN

Requests

  • Support as an OpenID provider

    From 2 comments
    • Couldn't it be implemented as an Open ID provider?
      geon on HN
    • So you implemented OpenID using a phone instead of the third-party identity provider's web site?
      yuliyp on HN
  • Use push notifications or public key authentication instead

    From 1 comment
    • That's what I thought. Implementing it without asking for extra info from the user might be troublesome if access to a phone's UDID is restricted (I think it is with Apple now?),…
      FuzzyDunlop on HN

Questions

  • Could it work as a second factor for two-factor authentication?

    From 1 comment
    • Actually it's even more interesting for two-factor authorization.
      vilda on HN

Alternatives named

  • tiqr

    From 2 comments
    • There's an open source project called 'tiqr' which uses QR, combined with a PIN code, to log you in: https://tiqr.org/
      leonderijke on HN
    • Great to see this discussion here. I'm the implementer of Animate Login, which is a similar, open source, QR Code authentication system. We're currently in discussions with the…
      SyntaxPolice2 on HN
  • Animate Login

    From 2 comments
    • Great to see this discussion here. I'm the implementer of Animate Login, which is a similar, open source, QR Code authentication system. We're currently in discussions with the…
      SyntaxPolice2 on HN
    • I've seen at least three independent implementations of this idea. One is called Snap2Pass: http://prpl.stanford.edu/papers/soups10j.pdf…
      sweis on HN
  • Snap2Pass

    From 1 comment
    • I've seen at least three independent implementations of this idea. One is called Snap2Pass: http://prpl.stanford.edu/papers/soups10j.pdf…
      sweis on HN
  • Google Authenticator

    From 2 comments
    • So it's like Google Authenticator with qr codes?
      zerostar07 on HN
    • It would only work as a alternative (definitely a more convenient one) to something like Google's two factor auth app with one time passwords, not a complete replacement. If the…
      spacemanaki on HN
  • passtrust (kirubakaran)

    From 2 comments
    • Paging kirubakran! He built a PoC with this exact same concept, but it is a chrome extension.
      nicholasreed on HN
    • I guess I waited too long to post it on HN :-) It is at http://www.kirubakaran.com/passtrust/ It has email confirmation on creation of the account (first log in) but I've…
      kirubakaran on HN
  • nomopass

    From 1 comment
    • Moreover; it works without pairing your mobile device with every single service you want to connect with. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te_sgFo5wdo for more info.…
      gghootch on HN

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