Webbu German short stories

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language learning

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180points
119comments
#325of 3,109 in 2023
Top 11%of 2023 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

7 positive, 15 neutral or asking, 4 mixed, 17 critical, out of 43 comments about the project. Thread score -0.28.

Execution: 1 for, 15 againstIdea: 6 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Useful idea for learners; short stories give context-based reading practice

    From 3 comments
    • I think this is a really cool idea and would be something I would use. Is there some way to translate short phrases like "drehte sich um" all together rather than word by word?
      birdstheword5 on HN
    • This is awesome! I've been casually learning German for 200+ days now, so this will make a great addition to my practice. Are the short stories generated by LLMs too?
      nickybuzz on HN
    • I have found ChatGPT a great tool for that sort of task (I study French). A typical book meant for students trying to improve their reading skills usually starts from a certain…
      monksdream on HN
  • Comparing the AI-improved text taught useful idioms

    From 1 comment
    • I learned more from comparing these two paragraphs than from reading the original. Little things like where the comma goes, sich verlaufen vs sich verirren. Ich soll mehr mit le…
      crucialfelix on HN

Objections

  • Story text sounds unnatural or wrong, apparently machine-translated or LLM-generated

    From 5 comments
    • Native German speaker here. My partner is a native English speaker and I was about to recommend this to her. However, it looks like a lot of this is auto generated/translated,…
      cloogshicer on HN
    • Thanks for confirming my gut response, that something felt "off" about the language here. As a German learner (B1-B2ish) I had a sense something was off-key, then had a suspicion…
      FearNotDaniel on HN
    • Seems silly to translate short stories into German, rather than just using German short stories. Even if translation got incredibly good, the "real" German stories would have the…
      thomasahle on HN
    • Looks cool! Though, I'd like to note that the fisherman story is not only unidiomatic German, but also contains a bunch of mistakes
      uvbu on HN
    • Intermediate German student here. I haven’t studied German in about seven years. I found the example story surprisingly easy to understand. I wonder if that’s because it was…
      clbrmbr on HN
  • Word translation links open Google searches with wrong language direction

    From 4 comments
    • Clicking on the words launches new tabs/windows into Google for translation. Very annoying. sending me to Google as a search link is super annoying. Some words (e.g., war, Tag,…
      WaitWaitWha on HN
    • I am experiencing an issue where if you click a word to get translation, a new Google search with 'translate "war" to english' opens. The problem is that it doesn't try to…
      amitheonlyone on HN
    • https://imgur.com/a/qqxr7JY just to let you know, sometimes the translation is in the wrong direction when I click on words.
      jan_Inkepa on HN
    • Thanks for sharing this, I'm trying it out now. One thing I noticed is that the translation links are auto-detecting the language, so some words are assumed by Google to be a…
      aimor on HN
  • Weekly cadence too slow for learning

    From 1 comment
    • Every week? you need to supply daily assignments at least. You can't learn much with just one study session per week. Maybe you can drop down to 5 days per week (weekends off),…
      bluGill on HN

Requests

  • Add more languages, such as Spanish, Danish, Arabic

    From 4 comments
    • If this is using LLMS then it would be great to expand to as many languages as possible because anthing outside of large languages are very poorly served by existing language…
      RugnirViking on HN
    • I would love this in Egyptian Arabic.
      throwaway2203 on HN
    • +1 for Spanish
      codethief on HN
    • Hey this is really a great project! Thanks for sharing. Any thoughts on expanding to other languages?
      thesuitonym on HN
  • Use in-page translations instead of Google links

    From 2 comments
    • I think this is a really cool idea and would be something I would use. Is there some way to translate short phrases like "drehte sich um" all together rather than word by word?
      birdstheword5 on HN
    • Clicking on the words launches new tabs/windows into Google for translation. Very annoying. sending me to Google as a search link is super annoying. Some words (e.g., war, Tag,…
      WaitWaitWha on HN
  • Support other translation engines like DeepL or ChatGPT

    From 1 comment
    • Would it be possible to add different translation engines, like DeepL or ChatGPT? (ChatGPT in particular is often much better than all the alternatives.)
      codethief on HN

Questions

  • Are the stories generated by LLMs?

    From 2 comments
    • This is awesome! I've been casually learning German for 200+ days now, so this will make a great addition to my practice. Are the short stories generated by LLMs too?
      nickybuzz on HN
    • Seems silly to translate short stories into German, rather than just using German short stories. Even if translation got incredibly good, the "real" German stories would have the…
      thomasahle on HN

Alternatives named

  • Duolingo stories

    From 1 comment
    • Paired with the autogenerated questions which require upgrading to check. One might as well use Duolingo, they have an interactive story feature which I feel does a better job…
      quitit on HN
  • LingQ

    From 1 comment
    • I recently started using LingQ for this. It's effortful rather than easy, which makes it a bit harder to develop into a habit, but the technique seems very effective, and the…
      rahimnathwani on HN
  • German children's books and Kafka short stories

    From 3 comments
    • When I was studying German twenty or so years ago I got good results from reading lots and lots of children's books, starting with the really basic stuff--like books meant for…
      xhevahir on HN
    • Seems silly to translate short stories into German, rather than just using German short stories. Even if translation got incredibly good, the "real" German stories would have the…
      thomasahle on HN
    • Kafka has some collections of short stories that are great. Some are no more than a page long but impactful, so they satisfying to stumble through with bad German skills.
      lubujackson on HN

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