ShipFast

Dev tools

boilerplate starter kit

SHOW HN2023

23points
37comments
#1,576of 3,109 in 2023
Top 51%of 2023 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

2 positive, 9 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 15 critical, out of 26 comments about the project. Thread score -0.38.

Execution: 1 for, 10 againstIdea: 1 for, 5 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Stack choices are sensible and opinionated starter kits are useful

    From 2 comments
    • (Not criticising your choices, they’re mostly reasonable and opinionated stacks are very useful.) I’m curious if you can talk about why you went with mailgun, and especially why…
      scrollaway on HN
    • Lots of negative comments below which I think are overly critical. I think the stack looks good and I’ve also had no issues with mongo. Will take a look!
      phas0ruk on HN
  • Good decision selling the tool

    From 1 comment
    • People forget that this is a starter kit. I see complaints against JavaScript vs Typescript for large projects. If you need to ship a web app in hours, I can guarantee that…
      rbadillap on HN
  • Site design and typeface admired

    From 1 comment
    • As a fellow solopreneur who builds a few apps a year, sorry but I'm not at all interested in something like this. Good luck though! P.S. love your site designs and layouts.…
      bavell on HN

Objections

  • Closed source, so users cannot trust foundational code

    From 1 comment
    • You might consider just releasing this as an open source repo. I’m sure your work is excellent but there is no way I would ever trust such foundational elements to a closed…
      sickcodebruh on HN
  • Using JavaScript instead of TypeScript

    From 3 comments
    • > Javascript or Typescript? > Javascript :) Pass
      needz on HN
    • Oof, choosing JS over TS was certainly a choice. Not one that I would have made…
      jmondi on HN
    • Arguable a reasonable choice to avoid tooling, but if you are going to use NextJS anyway… might as well choose TS
      quickthrower2 on HN
  • MongoDB is a poor choice

    From 2 comments
    • It uses NextAuth that in my experience works well only on Vercel (and they don't care) Also please stop using mongodb
      audessuscest on HN
    • As someone who have dealt with it in the past two years, no. If you want to do complex queries (aggregations), it's a huge pain in the ass to do, reason about, and also…
      theogravity on HN
  • Founder's startup count is inflated

    From 2 comments
    • 16 startups in 2 years? Should I too turn every other weekend project into a startup? Serious question.
      jdthedisciple on HN
    • Looking at his own numbers https://indiepa.ge/marclou it's hard to call most of these startups. He's embellishing at best.
      MH15 on HN
  • NextAuth is hard to use outside Vercel and limits username/password login

    From 2 comments
    • It uses NextAuth that in my experience works well only on Vercel (and they don't care) Also please stop using mongodb
      audessuscest on HN
    • NextAuth also intentionally made username-password authentication difficult to use because they think signing in with your Twitter or Google account is better. Meanwhile their…
      alexlur on HN

Requests

  • Open source the repo

    From 2 comments
    • You might consider just releasing this as an open source repo. I’m sure your work is excellent but there is no way I would ever trust such foundational elements to a closed…
      sickcodebruh on HN
    • > I hope this boilerplate will be as helpful to you as it is for me. Would love your feedback pls It’s a commercial product, so you won’t get much feedback as not many HN readers…
      gitgud on HN
  • Explain choice of JavaScript over TypeScript

    From 1 comment
  • Recommend auth alternatives

    From 1 comment

Questions

  • Where is the repo?

    From 1 comment
    • I’m having trouble finding the repo for this project. Can you link it?
      sickcodebruh on HN
  • Why MongoDB and Mailgun?

    From 1 comment
    • (Not criticising your choices, they’re mostly reasonable and opinionated stacks are very useful.) I’m curious if you can talk about why you went with mailgun, and especially why…
      scrollaway on HN

Alternatives named

  • Supabase

    From 1 comment
    • (Not criticising your choices, they’re mostly reasonable and opinionated stacks are very useful.) I’m curious if you can talk about why you went with mailgun, and especially why…
      scrollaway on HN
  • Postmark

    From 1 comment
    • I used mailgun previously and was pretty happy with it. I'm using postmark now, forget exactly why I switched but I think it was because I can have one account with silo'd API…
      bavell on HN
  • Passport.js

    From 1 comment
    • Didn't know about this. I started a new personal project using NextAuth but without the username/pass features. Might have to reconsider since I may eventually add that back in.…
      theogravity on HN
  • Ruby on Rails

    From 1 comment
    • And yet, likely still slower than a plain Ruby on Rails app. This is not a troll, Rails remains one of the quickest, simplest, out-of-the-box ready solutions for a web app. Every…
      multiplegeorges on HN

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