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Building a 42-inch E-Ink frame for generative art

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#e-ink#generative art#picture frame#dithering

537points
204comments
#52of 3,109 in 2023
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17 positive, 65 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 21 critical, out of 105 comments about the project. Thread score -0.00.

Idea: 8 for, 10 againstPricing: 1 for, 8 againstExecution: 2 for, 2 againstDesign: 2 for, 0 againstPerformance: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Blue noise dithering approach admired

    From 2 comments
    • I have a similar display, and also use blue noise dithering. Mine is driven in the backend by a web browser, which means I was able to abuse CSS and mix-blend-mode to do the…
      schlarpc on HN
    • I thought I'd heard of all the dithering options from https://tannerhelland.com/2012/12/28/dithering-eleven-algorithms-source-code.html, but surprised to read there's another one…
      xnx on HN

Objections

  • E-ink panels are far too expensive for home use

    From 3 comments
    • Well done. There would be so many more cool applications of e-ink if it wasn't $2,500 for a 42" display:…
      xnx on HN
    • Love it. But way too expensive, especially because we don't know what the quality / price will do in the future when the patents expire. For that price, you can buy a 42" color…
      landgenoot on HN
    • Fantastic project, thanks for sharing! Prohibitive pricing for home use, but I would really love to have that as a picture frame on the wall. One can dream for the future..
      tonoto on HN
  • Generative AI art wastes GPU power

    From 1 comment
    • That's a very neat project. The only issue I have with it is that it's basically a passive energy waster. It produces images by burning GPU power, when it could instead curate…
      lionkor on HN
  • AI output is not true generative art

    From 1 comment
    • Got excited, but then you qualified it was AI. AI art is not generative art, it is reductive "art". It requires samples of the art style you wish to cop, and it always produces…
      bazeblackwood on HN

Requests

  • Use anti-reflective glass on the frame

    From 1 comment
    • Awesome project! I'd strongly recommend swapping in some antireflective glass. There's a couple affordable options with less than 1% reflection [1][2]. Made a huge difference vs.…
      chromakode on HN
  • Show sample input images alongside the dithered output

    From 1 comment
    • This is great! I would love to see a sample of the color input images and the resulting image on the display.
      robszumski on HN

Questions

  • Why e-ink panels are so expensive

    From 2 comments
    • What makes E-Ink so damn expensive?
      KomoD on HN
    • >For comparison a 42" full-color 60fps TV with remote, speakers, wifi, etc. etc. is $140. Because it's a lot easier and cheaper to manufacture large LCD panels than E-ink film.…
      FirmwareBurner on HN

Alternatives named

  • Samsung The Frame TV

    From 2 comments
    • Samsung sells an LED TV specifically for this use case. Currently only at 4K. https://www.samsung.com/us/tvs/the-frame/highlights/
      esafak on HN
    • This is really cool! I've wanted to buy something similar for a long time, but in RGB. I know Samsung makes the Frame, but its not hackable, and its a waste of power. I don't…
      nealeratzlaff on HN
  • Battery-powered e-ink frames sold by Framelabs

    From 1 comment
    • Shameless plug: I build devices like that and sell them. Battery powered. https://framelabs.eu/en/product/artframe-31/ I use the 31.2" panel because it is 40% cheaper and has…
      clash on HN

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