Million Short

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Million Short

Imagine a search engine that removed top million sites from its index

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#search engine#alexa top million#web discovery#hidden gems

552points
195comments
#3of 1,677 in 2012
Top 1%of 2012 by points

How HN took it

DebatedReal support and real criticism

46 positive, 31 neutral or asking, 4 mixed, 37 critical, out of 118 comments about the project. Thread score +0.11.

Idea: 34 for, 17 againstExecution: 8 for, 17 againstPerformance: 2 for, 2 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Surfaces fresh, human-written pages instead of SEO content

    From 3 comments
    • The results are surprisingly good. I did some searches for recipes, and frankly without the top 1000 you really start getting some fresh hits. Entries by real people, rather than…
      swalsh on HN
    • I'm really liking this. Instead of being bombarded with content that's just blasted with keywords, I get relevant well-written articles. Not only that, but no more W3Schools in…
      heydonovan on HN
    • The results feel actually fresh. It's removing the consumerism layer of bullshit that google serves us everyday. Also wondering if that has something to do with the "bubble" that…
      serbrech on HN
  • Finds old-internet and obscure sites

    From 2 comments
    • This reminds of searching the internet in the 90's, I'm finding results from pages I haven't visited or heard of before now. This is really refreshing.
      libraryatnight on HN
    • This is pretty amazing. I didn't know that the old internet was still there! This may become my new favorite search engine.
      pessimizer on HN

Objections

  • Filtering is incomplete for non .com/.net/.org domains such as .gov.au

    From 2 comments
    • Good feedback. Right now the filtering is not 100% working for non .com, .net, .org, .co.uk domains. Still working on it.
      taxonomyman on HN
    • Right now the filtering is not 100% working for non .com, .net, .org, .co.uk domains. So, .gov.au isn't being properly filtered yet. Soon.
      taxonomyman on HN
  • Popular sites like W3Schools and Google still appear through subdomains or redirects

    From 2 comments
    • Your're right. We strip www from the domains. We need a better function to rip out the domain from a URL. Just haven't had time to cook one up yet.
      taxonomyman on HN
    • merriam-webster.com redirects to m-w.com - looking into the others.. Sometimes if a site has header redirects it gets lost in the filters. Thx for pointing this out.
      taxonomyman on HN
  • Searches for brand names or the user's own site return unrelated results

    From 3 comments
    • This is a cool search engine for discovery, but it defeats the purpose when you are looking for a location. Do a search for "facebook", you will not get any result that links you…
      hybrid11 on HN
    • There's one pretty big flaw with this approach... For certain searches that do not have "millions of results", you get completely unrelated results. If I search my name then the…
      bstar77 on HN
    • i searched for my site and in teh goog i get first page....here i found nothing....so for me this = no good. I understand the base but i dont understand the result
      Ben_Burke on HN

Requests

  • Keep the search text after searching

    From 2 comments
    • I would prefer if my previous search was populated in the search box after completing a search (since I might want to try the search with a different filter). It appears you have…
      pfarrell on HN
    • I love this! And am totally going to use it. Removing the top "thousand sites" removes pretty much all the sites I WISH I could have filtered from my Google results anyhow (ehow,…
      garraeth on HN
  • Add to Firefox search bar

    From 2 comments
    • Add a way for me to put this as my search engine in my firefox search bar. Please. EDIT: In trying to accomplish this task I found an add-on that lets you do this for anything.…
      unimpressive on HN
    • Now if I could add it to firefox's search bar...
      qwertyz on HN
  • Allow include and exclude site lists

    From 2 comments
    • You are right, but they won't allow the list to be 1 million sites long. You are talking 15 megs of data per data in plain text per request. But I like the idea of being able for…
      taxonomyman on HN
    • A few of the suggestions included the ability to set include/exclude sites which I think we'll add.
      taxonomyman on HN

Questions

  • How is the site built and where does the index come from

    From 2 comments
    • How did you build this? Are you indexing the entire web yourself? Or are you using Google's index/removing the top 1 million based on domain?
      felixchan on HN
    • Would you share some implementation details. What's your source for the top million sites; where do you get your site list from for the other results?
      pbhjpbhj on HN

Alternatives named

  • Google

    From 2 comments
    • Turns out removing the top million results from a search for Google... still returns google. Or google.com.au to be precise. It's a cool idea, but I'm not sure it's working. I…
      bicknergseng on HN
    • I'd be fascinated to see the kind of SEO that would go on if this took off. "Bad news-- we're a top 100 hit for several of our main keywords. We'll have to change our URL scheme…
      Cushman on HN
  • DuckDuckGo

    From 2 comments
    • Thank you - very refreshing! DuckDuckGo should implement something like this just for the spirit of it. The web just got more interesting. :)
      cnbeuiwx on HN
    • Here's what Dropbox thinks about power users: WSJ: What's next? Mr. Ferdowsi: We continue to focus on actually solving problems that real people have and not being distracted by…
      halle_lu_jah on HN

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