Linen.team

Productivity

team messaging

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124points
64comments
#698of 3,515 in 2024
Top 20%of 2024 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

11 positive, 18 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 7 critical, out of 37 comments about the project. Thread score +0.06.

Design: 5 for, 2 againstIdea: 4 for, 0 againstPricing: 1 for, 3 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 againstPerformance: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • The !mention versus @mention distinction for urgent messages

    From 3 comments
    • > 400 KB Can/will you maintain this devotion to optimization when shipping a a desktop client? If it could not be Electron, that would be great. I love the differentiation…
      sgarland on HN
    • other people being able to choose wether something is "hey this might be relevant to you" level vs "Hey, this needs your attention now" is something i actually like, given how…
      gotimo on HN
    • Contrary take: Thank goodness! Finally a useful distinction between "we want to include you" and "you must interrupt what you're doing to look at this now, now, _NOW_!" De facto…
      jonathaneunice on HN
  • Clean design that feels familiar to Slack users

    From 2 comments
    • This looks really nice. It’s similar to Slack, but still has it’s own distinctive feel.
      Aeolun on HN
    • That sounds good, thanks!
      stavros on HN

Objections

  • Pricing of $9 per user per month is high for messaging

    From 3 comments
    • Pricing is a tricky endeavor but personal opinion --- $9 per user per month is a little excessive just for messaging compared to the competition.
      jqpabc123 on HN
    • Indeed - Twist has been doing this thread-first slack alternative thing for a while and even that is $6/user.
      TheCapeGreek on HN
    • Yeah, that's more than what Slack charges with almost none of its features. To me the lack of huddles would be a dealbreaker, they really made quick ad-hoc sync ups better.
      M4v3R on HN
  • Lacks developer ecosystem and third-party integrations

    From 2 comments
    • If this is just a replacement chat tool, it's fine - and a great start. But if you want to replace Slack, you need to focus on the developer community and third-party…
      apimade on HN
    • Well... first class...? It's first class in the sense that it's proven good enough to help them to become successful. But in the meantime it's a hot mess of deprecations…
      sverhagen on HN
  • No self-hosting option for data sovereignty

    From 2 comments
    • Can this be self managed? Major plus if so. Not everyone goes to the cloud by default. There are many orgs out there that want full data sovereignty for better infosec without…
      arcza on HN
    • Guess the answer as usual is no.
      arcza on HN

Requests

  • Webhook and third-party integrations

    From 2 comments
    • If this is just a replacement chat tool, it's fine - and a great start. But if you want to replace Slack, you need to focus on the developer community and third-party…
      apimade on HN
    • Is there a way for automations to post messages with web hooks? That's usually the easiest automation-type feature to implement on the platform and for users
      ohghiZai on HN
  • Desktop client

    From 2 comments
    • Do you have any plans to release a desktop-compatible bundle?
      hwbehrens on HN
    • > 400 KB Can/will you maintain this devotion to optimization when shipping a a desktop client? If it could not be Electron, that would be great. I love the differentiation…
      sgarland on HN
  • Self-hosting or single-tenant option

    From 2 comments
    • If this is just a replacement chat tool, it's fine - and a great start. But if you want to replace Slack, you need to focus on the developer community and third-party…
      apimade on HN
    • Can this be self managed? Major plus if so. Not everyone goes to the cloud by default. There are many orgs out there that want full data sovereignty for better infosec without…
      arcza on HN

Questions

  • How does it compare to Zulip or Twist

    From 2 comments
    • How does Linen compare to Zulip?
      stavros on HN
    • How do you distinguish your product from Twist? I like the two levels of mentions, but that's not enough to convince me to jump by itself.
      smallerfish on HN
  • How Slack Connect style cross-organisation chat is handled

    From 1 comment
    • Awesome! I’ve been desperately looking for a slack alternative. In part I want something more lightweight, and nowadays there are so many little upsells that get in the way. My…
      memset on HN

Alternatives named

  • Slack

    From 1 comment
    • As someone who has officially given up on having any semblance of keeping up with the never ending fire house of totally unmanageable slack threads, channels, DMs etc, especially…
      llamaLord on HN
  • Zulip

    From 1 comment
  • Twist

    From 1 comment
    • Indeed - Twist has been doing this thread-first slack alternative thing for a while and even that is $6/user.
      TheCapeGreek on HN
  • Basecamp

    From 1 comment
  • Delta Chat

    From 1 comment
    • Taking the long road back to Delta Chat? https://delta.chat/en/
      stonogo on HN

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