Factful

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fact checking

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Factful

I'm 16 and building an AI based startup called Factful with friends

factful.io

#fact checking#ai fact checker#misinformation#grammar checker

222points
152comments
#346of 3,515 in 2024
Top 10%of 2024 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

19 positive, 27 neutral or asking, 5 mixed, 31 critical, out of 82 comments about the project. Thread score -0.19.

Idea: 2 for, 16 againstExecution: 1 for, 11 againstDesign: 1 for, 2 againstPerformance: 0 for, 1 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Impressive work for a 16-year-old

    From 3 comments
    • This is awesome! Very very good work. Simple, friendly product design and I love that it corrects both facts and grammar. Not only is this an impressive use of LLMs, it's highly…
      _akhe on HN
    • Despite what criticisms you may receive, you put something into existence. You may not have gotten everything right but, it is admirable. Congratulations. At your age, many of…
      vxxzy on HN
    • This speaks more as a testament to your web developer skills (at 16!) than your actual value as an... AI startup. Keep it up, your career should be rosy.
      SPBS on HN
  • Simple, friendly design

    From 1 comment
    • This is awesome! Very very good work. Simple, friendly product design and I love that it corrects both facts and grammar. Not only is this an impressive use of LLMs, it's highly…
      _akhe on HN

Objections

  • LLMs are unreliable at determining facts

    From 3 comments
    • Andrew, you and your friends should be proud. It's really encouraging to see people, especially in your generation, thinking seriously about the problem of misinformation. There…
      dweinus on HN
    • > I'm a high school student with a passion for tackling misinformation online. Inspired by the need for more reliable content verification tools, I decided to create Factful.…
      SrslyJosh on HN
    • How incredibly cool to see young people that are interested and capable of building things! I have a couple of rhetorical questions. How do you expect a language model to see…
      LivenessModel on HN
  • Suggestions are verbose or wrong; fact checks often miss the point

    From 3 comments
    • Is there more where we can read about how it works? I tried testing it with the sentence “Toledo is the largest city in Ohio” and it’s suggestions were to replace this with…
      kemotep on HN
    • So I put in: > Green Party leader Justin Trudeau was ejected from Canada's House of Commons after fiery exchanges with Prime Minister Jagmeet Singh. Mr Trudeau's removal came…
      throwaway918274 on HN
    • I'm having a lot of fun with this! Prompt: > Factful.io uses a hand-coded natural language parser to determine factual accuracy to within a tolerance of 12.3 standard units of…
      itishappy on HN
  • Site errors such as a global rate limit and dev server build issue

    From 2 comments
    • I typed "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog", clicked "Check Everything", I get a brief spinner, and ``` [plugin:vite:import-analysis] Failed to parse source for import…
      diabeetusman on HN
    • Awesome work! I tried it on a couple of pretty confusing examples and it worked out great. However you might want to build with production mode enabled, since your current build…
      omneity on HN
  • Unclear how factuality is determined and who decides truth

    From 2 comments
    • How do you evaluate “factuality” without knowing all the facts, though? That’s the downfall of all such services - eventually (or even immediately) they begin to just push their…
      ein0p on HN
    • If Google and Meta aren't capable of providing the truth, what makes you think you can? Most "truths" online are just constructed lies or biased information. Wouldn't you just be…
      seoulmetro on HN

Requests

  • Public API

    From 2 comments
    • Cool idea... do you offer an API?
      theGnuMe on HN
    • This is awesome! Very very good work. Simple, friendly product design and I love that it corrects both facts and grammar. Not only is this an impressive use of LLMs, it's highly…
      _akhe on HN
  • Show full corrected sentence with one-click change

    From 1 comment
    • Impressive! Really well done, Andrew. One piece of feedback. I used the sample text and it gave me a sentence about a gold fish's memory and when I checked it, it had three…
      thinkingtoilet on HN
  • Clearer homepage explaining the product

    From 1 comment
    • Cool stuff, only feedback I have is that it could be a bit clearer on the homepage what your product does - I only found out when playing around (I didn't read your post before…
      dutchbrit on HN

Questions

  • How does it work and what sources does it use

    From 2 comments
    • Is there more where we can read about how it works? I tried testing it with the sentence “Toledo is the largest city in Ohio” and it’s suggestions were to replace this with…
      kemotep on HN
    • > It evaluates context, factuality, coherence, and more to ensure the accuracy and credibility of content. Based on what it does the evaluations? Is there some set collection &…
      margorczynski on HN
  • Why incorporated in UK but based in Canada

    From 2 comments
    • I admire your bravery of posting to something like HN for people to pick at it (there are always positives and negatives)... Personally, I think there are a number of hard…
      readingnews on HN
    • Why is your company incorporated in the UK but based out of Canada?
      IncreasePosts on HN

Alternatives named

  • ChatGPT

    From 2 comments
    • Does this do more than send the text to ChatGPT concatenated with a prompt like "fact check this essay, putting your notes between brackets"? Nothing happens when I click "fact…
      remram on HN
    • The "AI based startup" scene is flooded with many of these. What makes you different? I tried to gauge quality using chatgpt-3.5, 4.0, and your tool. chatgpt produced better…
      xyst on HN
  • Fakts

    From 1 comment
    • Hello! I built Fakts (https://fakts.co/) a few years ago pre-LLMs as a college project. It attempts to highlight true, false, or inconclusive statements in a given article by…
      sarboleda2299 on HN
  • Grammarly

    From 1 comment
    • Yea, that's why we also added in an grammar checker, even if they dont care about facts, they can get something better than gram marly that checks for way more for way less.
      helloduck1234 on HN

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