Wordllama

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How HN took it

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3 positive, 5 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 1 critical, out of 10 comments about the project. Thread score +0.17.

Idea: 2 for, 0 againstPerformance: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Tiny model size is an advantage over SBERT smallest models

    From 1 comment
    • Nice. I like the tiny size a lot, that's already an advantage over SBERTs smallest models. But it seems quite dated technically - which I understand is a tradeoff for performance…
      authorfly on HN
  • Useful for game making

    From 1 comment

Objections

  • Benchmarks clearly worse than MiniLM models

    From 2 comments
    • Its a 17 MB model that benchmarks obviously worse than MiniLM v2 (which is SBERT). I run V3 on ONNX on every platform you can think of with a 23 MB model. I don't intend for that…
      refulgentis on HN
    • Looks cool! Any advantages to the mini-lm model - it seems better on most mteb tasks but wondering if maybe inference or something is better.
      dspoka on HN
  • Dated technically compared to LLM-based embeddings

    From 1 comment
    • Nice. I like the tiny size a lot, that's already an advantage over SBERTs smallest models. But it seems quite dated technically - which I understand is a tradeoff for performance…
      authorfly on HN

Requests

  • Support for multiple similarity types such as semantic, NLI and noun-abstract

    From 1 comment
    • Nice. I like the tiny size a lot, that's already an advantage over SBERTs smallest models. But it seems quite dated technically - which I understand is a tradeoff for performance…
      authorfly on HN
  • Multilingual or French language support

    From 2 comments
    • Any plan for languages other than english? This would be a perfect tool for french language.
      jcmeyrignac on HN
    • Very interested in a multilingual version too! FYI huggingface hosts datasets too. And wikipedia has a nice portal for datasets :…
      Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe on HN

Questions

  • Whether embeddings can encode opposite meanings like burning and freezing

    From 2 comments
    • I assume that by "ChatGPT embeddings" you mean OpenAI embedding models. In that case, "burning" and "freezing" are not opposite at all, with a cosine similarity of 0.46 (running…
      curl-up on HN
    • This might be a dumb question but... if I get the embeddings of words with a common theme like "burning", "warm", "cool", "freezing", would I be able to relatively well fit an…
      magicalhippo on HN

Alternatives named

  • MiniLM / SBERT models

    From 2 comments
    • Looks cool! Any advantages to the mini-lm model - it seems better on most mteb tasks but wondering if maybe inference or something is better.
      dspoka on HN
    • Its a 17 MB model that benchmarks obviously worse than MiniLM v2 (which is SBERT). I run V3 on ONNX on every platform you can think of with a 23 MB model. I don't intend for that…
      refulgentis on HN
  • OpenAI embedding models

    From 1 comment
    • I assume that by "ChatGPT embeddings" you mean OpenAI embedding models. In that case, "burning" and "freezing" are not opposite at all, with a cosine similarity of 0.46 (running…
      curl-up on HN
  • TF-IDF with kmeans

    From 1 comment
    • With a large corpus (10,000+ sentences--each sentence is a "document" in my usecase) I can get similar results by kmeans clustering TF-IDF spmatrix vectors but it looks like this…
      xk3 on HN

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