Privastead

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Privastead

Open-source private home security camera system (end-to-end encryption)

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#end-to-end encryption#home security camera#mls#open source nvr#self-hosted camera

551points
165comments
#53of 3,515 in 2024
Top 2%of 2024 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

7 positive, 27 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 13 critical, out of 49 comments about the project. Thread score -0.02.

Idea: 4 for, 7 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 4 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Privacy-focused design with end-to-end encryption and open source

    From 2 comments
    • Wow!! Very cool project. The reasons you mentioned above are the exact reason that I have not setup security cameras at my house, but this makes me reconsider. Combined with the…
      KetoManx64 on HN
    • I completely agree that security cameras can be a disaster for one's privacy. That's why I decided to build Privastead for my own use in the first place. It's fully open source,…
      arrdalan on HN
  • Rust choice and interest in the project

    From 1 comment
    • I've been a happy user of frigate (https://frigate.video) with fully local isolated setup: multiple poe cameras on a dedicated network, coral to supplement on-camera recognition,…
      VTimofeenko on HN

Objections

  • Only motion detection, no human detection

    From 1 comment
    • Having had cameras and a couple of breakin attempts for a while now my biggest must-have for these sort of things is: - reliable human detection (not just motion) - integration…
      mattlondon on HN
  • Only supports one camera model and one camera

    From 2 comments
    • Certainly interesting project, but I do encourage people to do more thorough research before starting a new project and claiming they needed to fill a void. > However, I could…
      0points on HN
    • If you use Home Assistant in an isolated local network with no Internet access, you will have good privacy. However, I needed to be able to use my camera remotely from my phone.…
      arrdalan on HN
  • Camera-to-hub traffic is unencrypted

    From 2 comments
    • I'd assume that end-to-end encryption would mean the traffic is encrypted between the camera and the app, which it isn't. That would require an app in the camera to support the…
      SahAssar on HN
    • I have mentioned the unencrypted traffic between the camera and hub here: https://github.com/privastead/privastead/blob/main/HOW_TO.md (Step 4, second paragraph)
      arrdalan on HN
  • Existing alternatives like Frigate and moonfire-nvr already cover this

    From 1 comment
    • Certainly interesting project, but I do encourage people to do more thorough research before starting a new project and claiming they needed to fill a void. > However, I could…
      0points on HN

Requests

  • Human detection instead of motion only

    From 1 comment
    • Having had cameras and a couple of breakin attempts for a while now my biggest must-have for these sort of things is: - reliable human detection (not just motion) - integration…
      mattlondon on HN
  • APIs or MQTT integration

    From 1 comment
    • Having had cameras and a couple of breakin attempts for a while now my biggest must-have for these sort of things is: - reliable human detection (not just motion) - integration…
      mattlondon on HN
  • Support for multiple cameras

    From 1 comment
    • A fully isolated setup on a dedicated network can certainly provide good privacy. A key benefit of Privastead is that it can send the videos to your smartphone remotely using a…
      arrdalan on HN
  • Run the server as a Cloudflare worker

    From 1 comment
    • Nifty. Have you considered trying to make the server be able to run as something like a Cloudflare worker?
      amluto on HN

Questions

  • How it compares to Home Assistant and other self-hosted NVRs

    From 2 comments
    • I'm deeply interested in this and it just so happens I only need one hardened IP camera for my home. Can you point out how your project provides a better security layout than…
      nzeid on HN
    • Certainly interesting project, but I do encourage people to do more thorough research before starting a new project and claiming they needed to fill a void. > However, I could…
      0points on HN
  • Why an untrusted server component is needed

    From 1 comment
    • What is the purpose of introducing the untrusted "server" component? Is it intended to run in a different place than the trusted "camera hub" component, such as on a cloud…
      scottlamb on HN
  • Whether the camera hub could run inside the camera firmware

    From 1 comment
    • Wow!! Very cool project. The reasons you mentioned above are the exact reason that I have not setup security cameras at my house, but this makes me reconsider. Combined with the…
      KetoManx64 on HN

Alternatives named

  • Frigate

    From 2 comments
    • Certainly interesting project, but I do encourage people to do more thorough research before starting a new project and claiming they needed to fill a void. > However, I could…
      0points on HN
    • I've been a happy user of frigate (https://frigate.video) with fully local isolated setup: multiple poe cameras on a dedicated network, coral to supplement on-camera recognition,…
      VTimofeenko on HN
  • Home Assistant

    From 1 comment
    • I'm deeply interested in this and it just so happens I only need one hardened IP camera for my home. Can you point out how your project provides a better security layout than…
      nzeid on HN
  • moonfire-nvr

    From 2 comments
    • Certainly interesting project, but I do encourage people to do more thorough research before starting a new project and claiming they needed to fill a void. > However, I could…
      0points on HN
    • What is the purpose of introducing the untrusted "server" component? Is it intended to run in a different place than the trusted "camera hub" component, such as on a cloud…
      scottlamb on HN
  • Scrypted

    From 1 comment
    • Did you look into Scrypted? It is OSS. With HomeKit (which is how I use it) it is also E2EE. I’m not sure if their app is E2EE though, I only use HomeKit. It’s pretty good and…
      EthicalSimilar on HN
  • ZoneMinder

    From 1 comment

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