Ninja Blocks

Hardware

home automation

SHOW HN2012

149points
89comments
#128of 1,677 in 2012
Top 8%of 2012 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

10 positive, 18 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 16 critical, out of 46 comments about the project. Thread score -0.09.

Idea: 3 for, 5 againstExecution: 2 for, 2 againstDesign: 0 for, 3 againstDocs: 0 for, 3 againstPricing: 3 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Interoperability and open API approach

    From 2 comments
    • Hey @windexh8er, from the sounds of it you are already well automated! I'm not sure how much NB offers you today, however ... Ninja is ultimately (read: not yet) a meta-platform…
      askpete on HN
    • Hi Windexh8er, (Ninja Marcus here) Thanks for your feedback and questions! 1) Nope, no monthly fee. 2) We don't support this today. We think most of the value actually occurs in…
      schappim on HN
  • Good hardware value for the price

    From 2 comments
    • The hardware package alone makes this look like a really good deal. Why isn't the "remaining" number going down?
      notum on HN
    • I've never wanted $200 more than I do right now :(
      mikegioia on HN

Objections

  • Relies on cloud connectivity

    From 3 comments
    • Marcus, Thanks for your response. I'd, kindly, disagree with you on #2. I'm a serious home automation user - and have it deployed in multiple locations for myself and family. I…
      windexh8er on HN
    • One of the few areas where I will not use cloud services at all is as soon as they are tied in with real world hardware. 'value' for you occurs in the cloud, to me it is a…
      jacquesm on HN
    • Totally agree. My home automation system (a pretty extensive Control4 installation) works completely fine when my internet connection is down (except remote access of course),…
      wallywax on HN
  • 433MHz only, no Z-Wave or Zigbee yet

    From 2 comments
    • So... A problem here - there's a lot of startup in the home automation space right now. I've been using MiCasaVerde for over a year now and it's awesome. Fully controllable and…
      windexh8er on HN
    • It's not (see second to last paragraph - Q #3, and answer follows from the NinjaBlocks site). Z-Wave and Insteon are the defacto standard, if it doesn't support it - it's not…
      windexh8er on HN
  • Wireless security concerns

    From 1 comment
    • 1) I don't want wireless at all. Too easily hacked without detection. Wired Ethernet is pretty cheap these days, and power line signaling is also available. 2) Like Twine,…
      jwatte on HN

Requests

  • Support Z-Wave and Zigbee

    From 2 comments
    • Lots of good questions here, but I think the critical question is whether it's compatible with any of the other emerging standards like Z-Wave. Can someone from Ninja Blocks…
      onethumb on HN
    • It's not (see second to last paragraph - Q #3, and answer follows from the NinjaBlocks site). Z-Wave and Insteon are the defacto standard, if it doesn't support it - it's not…
      windexh8er on HN
  • Work with existing sensors and standard cameras

    From 1 comment
    • Just bought one- Will be replacing my Lowes Iris system if it works decent enough. Will this work with the existing lowes iris sensors? edit- It does not support the sensors :(…
      DanBlake on HN
  • Support industry protocols like BACnet

    From 1 comment
    • Any plan to use industry standard protocols? I work in HVAC controls and I'm always surprised by how the 'home automation' folks seem to just ignore what's already out there. My…
      Frozenlock on HN

Questions

  • Does it work without internet?

    From 1 comment
    • Marcus, Thanks for your response. I'd, kindly, disagree with you on #2. I'm a serious home automation user - and have it deployed in multiple locations for myself and family. I…
      windexh8er on HN
  • Is there a monthly fee?

    From 1 comment
    • So... A problem here - there's a lot of startup in the home automation space right now. I've been using MiCasaVerde for over a year now and it's awesome. Fully controllable and…
      windexh8er on HN
  • Can it connect over 3G?

    From 1 comment
    • how does the central computer connect to the internet ? can it use a 3G sim card for example ?
      level09 on HN

Alternatives named

  • MiCasaVerde Vera

    From 1 comment
    • So... A problem here - there's a lot of startup in the home automation space right now. I've been using MiCasaVerde for over a year now and it's awesome. Fully controllable and…
      windexh8er on HN
  • SmartThings

    From 1 comment
    • So... A problem here - there's a lot of startup in the home automation space right now. I've been using MiCasaVerde for over a year now and it's awesome. Fully controllable and…
      windexh8er on HN
  • Twine

    From 1 comment
    • I backed the 'wireless sensor readings to internet' device Twine (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/supermechanical/twine-listen-to-your-world-talk-to-the-internet) so I'm…
      drsim on HN
  • Spark

    From 1 comment
    • So... A problem here - there's a lot of startup in the home automation space right now. I've been using MiCasaVerde for over a year now and it's awesome. Fully controllable and…
      windexh8er on HN

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