Hide Secret Messages In Facebook Photos With My Chrome Extension

Security and privacy

steganography

SHOW HN2013

153points
54comments
#120of 1,739 in 2013
Top 7%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

6 positive, 10 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 13 critical, out of 30 comments about the project. Thread score -0.13.

Privacy: 0 for, 10 againstIdea: 4 for, 1 againstExecution: 1 for, 2 againstDocs: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Interesting proof of concept that survives Facebook JPEG recompression

    From 3 comments
    • I built this Steganography tool as a research project within Oxford University. The goal was for users to be able to communicate via Facebook without anybody being able to even…
      owencm on HN
    • To be fair, this is probably more of a cool toy and proof of concept than something you would use for industry- or military-grade security needs. According to Owen's pdf itself,…
      rwissmann on HN
    • Excellent reference implementation of a covert communication channel. Well done.
      jaytaylor on HN

Objections

  • Steganography is detectable in principle; the claim of undetectability is overstated

    From 3 comments
    • I remember reading an article where Al Qaeda is using the same practices for sending messages to hidden members via eBay (and other sites). Here is an article (not the same one I…
      elliottcarlson on HN
    • the presence of steganography has long been detectable in images and audio. whether it can be decoded depends on the cipher (if any) that's used for the actual message, but this…
      leeoniya on HN
    • RE: "These messages are hidden in photos so they cannot be detected by Facebook, Governments or prying friends." I think this claim is overly broad and not particularly true. The…
      gallerytungsten on HN
  • Government or Facebook could scan uploads for hidden messages

    From 2 comments
    • "Never" is a long time, and it's plausible the NSA might be interested in a list of names of people who have gone to extremes to hide from them. Is the detection process so…
      goodside on HN
    • If they can handle recompressing 300+ million photos a day they could proabably add a quick check for steganograpic markers and dump those images off to a separate queue for…
      ams6110 on HN
  • Seems an inefficient way to send encrypted messages

    From 1 comment
    • I understand what steganography is, but what does this solve? Why would you want to send encrypted messages in a photo across facebook? It just seems really inefficient way of…
      jpswade on HN

Requests

  • Make the project open source so it can be used from the command line

    From 1 comment
    • Why not make it proper open source so it's not necessary to extract code from the PDF? I'd like to use this from the command-line. Thanks.
      iso8859-1 on HN
  • Mirror or host the paper more reliably

    From 1 comment
    • Just wanted to toss this out there: I noticed that your host for the PDF was dropbox, which often turns off access if a document gets a lot of traffic. Because of that, I…
      lelandbatey on HN

Questions

  • Which JPEG steganography algorithm is used

    From 1 comment
    • Great work! Which JPEG stego algorithm do you use (if you don't mind sharing)? Edit: Found the linked paper. Thanks!
      ksolanki on HN
  • What problem does this solve

    From 1 comment

Alternatives named

  • StegDetect and other steganography tools

    From 1 comment
    • I remember reading an article where Al Qaeda is using the same practices for sending messages to hidden members via eBay (and other sites). Here is an article (not the same one I…
      elliottcarlson on HN
  • Existing image steganography tools that do not handle recompression

    From 1 comment
    • Hundreds of steganography tools already exist for making images which can be shared on any medium where recompression is not an issue…
      owencm on HN
  • Umshade Chrome text-encryption extension

    From 1 comment
    • I'm the author of umshade (http://umshade.it), which aims to bring a chrome extension that provides proof-of-concept grade text-encryption to any website. Obviously I like what…
      97-109-107 on HN

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