Gingko

Productivity

outliner and document editor

SHOW HN2013

140points
132comments
#149of 1,739 in 2013
Top 9%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

15 positive, 22 neutral or asking, 5 mixed, 28 critical, out of 70 comments about the project. Thread score -0.21.

Idea: 6 for, 9 againstDesign: 6 for, 8 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 4 againstExecution: 0 for, 4 againstDocs: 0 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Good fit for hierarchical structure, outlines and lecture notes.

    From 2 comments
    • What a great tool! I will definitly use this to structure my lecture notes! (Topic > Sub-Topic > Definition/List) Improvement: Allow to filter and color cards. So you can walk…
      zerni on HN
    • I like this a lot! The research manuscript example is exciting. It would be great if authors could link directly to the part of a paper that they are citing and be able to open…
      heurist on HN
  • Useful for screenplay structure.

    From 1 comment
    • I like the use case for reading movie scripts, it could help to keep all levels of the story in mind: https://gingkoapp.com/Alien-1979
      ivan_ah on HN

Objections

  • Limited to three levels of nesting.

    From 2 comments
    • I want the tool you're building! It's got huge overlap with a project I was just in the planning phase of, a cloud-ified FreeMind. However! There's one fatal-for-me flaw in your…
      jholman on HN
    • Have you thought about allowing for the creation of arbitrarily deep trees? That's one of the features I like most about workflowy. This looks really cool, though!
      dan-g on HN
  • Hard to read and navigate; UI is confusing.

    From 2 comments
    • Hopefully this criticism is helpful. I find this really hard to read, sorry. I can't just scroll through or scan read, and I'm met with a variety of different things all at once.…
      IanCal on HN
    • Dear authors, my screen has hundreds of pixels vertically, I would like to be able to read more than 15 lines at once. The font size is insanely huge. It made me close the tab.
      Sprint on HN
  • Sign-up required before trying the demo.

    From 1 comment
    • Web: Try It Now! Me: Cool, a demo! [click] Web: But first, you must Sign Up...[trollface] Me: Nope nope nope...
      WayneDB on HN
  • Lacks offline use and export formats.

    From 2 comments
    • This looks awesome, but the elephant in the room is how does the document look offline? Can it be exported to PDF or be printed or something? When you print it, how does it look?
      marcamillion on HN
    • would love to see a self hosted ginko. It used to be that there was a lot of self hosted project, now everyone wants to keep you data... I wonder if the trend will change again.
      damaru on HN

Requests

  • Arbitrary or infinite tree depth.

    From 2 comments
    • Yes, we're definitely working on adding arbirary depth. We are starting with three because it's enough to realize the benefits. Infinite depth is coming (as well as other…
      adriano_f on HN
    • Thanks for the feedback! Yes, more than three layers deep is our highest priority, along with offline mode. And you are right, I meant "depth-first"; makes more sense.
      adriano_f on HN
  • Offline mode and self-hosting.

    From 2 comments
    • would love to see a self hosted ginko. It used to be that there was a lot of self hosted project, now everyone wants to keep you data... I wonder if the trend will change again.
      damaru on HN
    • I want the tool you're building! It's got huge overlap with a project I was just in the planning phase of, a cloud-ified FreeMind. However! There's one fatal-for-me flaw in your…
      jholman on HN
  • PDF and other export formats.

    From 1 comment
    • This looks awesome, but the elephant in the room is how does the document look offline? Can it be exported to PDF or be printed or something? When you print it, how does it look?
      marcamillion on HN
  • Auto edit mode on single click.

    From 1 comment
    • Interesting idea. Can you make it so that when I click in the card it automatically goes into edit mode? Having to click an "edit" button really slows things down.
      defilade on HN

Questions

  • Is it an input format, publication format or viewer?

    From 1 comment
    • I'm certainly drawn to the idea and am inclined positively towards it. I'm even willing to overlook the ridiculous hubris of "This new medium will be the way most text is read…
      mgualt on HN
  • Is any part open source?

    From 1 comment
    • I'm certainly drawn to the idea and am inclined positively towards it. I'm even willing to overlook the ridiculous hubris of "This new medium will be the way most text is read…
      mgualt on HN

Alternatives named

  • Workflowy

    From 2 comments
    • Reminds me of https://workflowy.com/
      tommi on HN
    • Have you thought about allowing for the creation of arbitrarily deep trees? That's one of the features I like most about workflowy. This looks really cool, though!
      dan-g on HN
  • TreeSheets

    From 1 comment
    • Far from identical, but along similar lines: http://treesheets.com/ "It's like a spreadsheet, immediately familiar, but much more suitable for complex data because it's…
      Matti on HN
  • Ted Nelson's ZigZag

    From 1 comment
    • Reminds me of Ted Nelson's Zigzag, only he had N dimensions and a cell structure. http://xanadu.com/zigzag/
      dscrd on HN
  • Emacs org-mode

    From 1 comment
    • This reminded me to (at last) master emacs org-mode.
      k_bx on HN

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