Betatype

Web and SaaS

freelance marketplace

SHOW HN2014

285points
142comments
#53of 2,272 in 2014
Top 3%of 2014 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

12 positive, 42 neutral or asking, 6 mixed, 38 critical, out of 98 comments about the project. Thread score -0.28.

Idea: 10 for, 8 againstPricing: 2 for, 16 againstExecution: 0 for, 7 againstDocs: 0 for, 3 againstDesign: 0 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Interesting idea that fills a real gap between idea and MVP

    From 3 comments
    • This is one of the most interesting things I've seen as a Show HN in ages... Awesome! I can't wait to see how this plays out, and how scared people are to tell each other about…
      zensavona on HN
    • This is a cool idea. I've been experimenting with a similar model for design. Undesigned[1] will redesign or prototype a single page in one week for $1500. In your case, the…
      guptaneil on HN
    • I like the idea of it, was thinking of something myself not too long ago. It's great because it provides big value, and your (i.e. betatype founder, contractor specialising on…
      gedrap on HN
  • Fixed budget makes scoping simpler

    From 1 comment
    • Sometimes a blank canvas is not a good thing. Twitter invented something entirely defined by its constraints. The process of negotiating, defining and developing an "prototype"…
      netcan on HN

Objections

  • $3,500 is too little for a real prototype and iteration

    From 3 comments
    • I just can't imagine any non brochure-ware prototype that can be built for $3500 (let's leave off the problems of the middleman not making much money on this one /and/ promising…
      llamataboot on HN
    • Really cool idea, but I think a flat-cost of $3,500 for a prototype is way too low and the approach is error prone. How about iteration? Iteration is one of the key factors…
      DigitalSea on HN
    • The term prototype seem ambiguous enough that will cause problems. How far does it have to done? How much bugs can it have? Cross-browser compatible? The problem with fixed…
      betadreamer on HN
  • The 4% fee is not sustainable

    From 3 comments
    • I think you should take more than a 4% cut, that doesn't seem sustainable.
      kapkapkap on HN
    • 4% doesn't seem sustainable if they're taking credit card payments. The best they can probably get to is around 1.2% transaction fee (if they've shopped around) and this is…
      kondro on HN
    • On the bright side, this project acknowledges the killer issue with these kinds of marketplaces: scalably managing quality, scope, and disputes. But on the other hand, I see…
      aegiso on HN
  • Chicken-and-egg marketplace problem and quality control

    From 3 comments
    • It's a nice site ... what's your strategy for solving the chicken-and-egg marketplace problem?
      smoyer on HN
    • On the bright side, this project acknowledges the killer issue with these kinds of marketplaces: scalably managing quality, scope, and disputes. But on the other hand, I see…
      aegiso on HN
    • I liked the idea, atleast Betatype will have less noise and better quality of developers/hackers. I wonders how will the quality be maintained though. Also there is thin line…
      pushkargaikwad on HN
  • Sign-up pages lack HTTPS and ask for too much information

    From 3 comments
    • Did anyone else notice that the "Apply as programmer" sign up page doesn't use HTTPS? Is it just me or this is the case for everyone. http://betatype.io/createacc/hacker It…
      jnhuynh on HN
    • No SSL? Not even for sign up and sign in? How is my info (user, password, e-mail, name, banking info) going to be "protected"? Has people given up on SSL (and any security for…
      eauden on HN
    • You make it pretty hard to register. I don't want to send all kinds of details about myself when checking if a service is worth my time and I don't think I'm the only one.
      mikkom on HN

Requests

  • Show live examples of what $3,500 produces

    From 1 comment
    • As someone who is a member of both of this site's target audiences, I'd be curious to actually see some live samples of products that were developed on a $3,500 budget. I think…
      aculver on HN
  • Clarify scope, iteration and dispute handling

    From 3 comments
    • I'm sure a could read a bunch to find out your answer, but it wasn't quickly enough obvious to me (as a programmer) how you ensure the scope of work is actually equal to $3500 of…
      flippyhead on HN
    • Are you handling the escrow in a safe manner to make sure everyone gets paid? What is your dispute resolution plan?
      ApolloRising on HN
    • The term prototype seem ambiguous enough that will cause problems. How far does it have to done? How much bugs can it have? Cross-browser compatible? The problem with fixed…
      betadreamer on HN

Questions

  • How is escrow and dispute resolution handled?

    From 1 comment
    • Are you handling the escrow in a safe manner to make sure everyone gets paid? What is your dispute resolution plan?
      ApolloRising on HN
  • What does the programmer screening involve?

    From 1 comment
  • Does the price cover iterations?

    From 1 comment
    • Really cool idea, but I think a flat-cost of $3,500 for a prototype is way too low and the approach is error prone. How about iteration? Iteration is one of the key factors…
      DigitalSea on HN

Alternatives named

  • Launchyard

    From 1 comment
    • Cool but there are already similar services: http://launchyard.com/ They will help you focus your idea and one of their partners will build the prototype.
      bruceb on HN
  • Undesigned

    From 1 comment
    • This is a cool idea. I've been experimenting with a similar model for design. Undesigned[1] will redesign or prototype a single page in one week for $1500. In your case, the…
      guptaneil on HN
  • builtFromIdeas

    From 1 comment
    • I run http://builtFromIdeas.com, where I build apps, generally for non-tech entrepreneurs, for $5,000. I've had a few clients "succeed" without continued input from me. I…
      coreymaass on HN

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