Fail2web

Infrastructure

server security administration

SHOW HN2014

48points
14comments
#671of 2,272 in 2014
Top 30%of 2014 by points

How HN took it

DebatedReal support and real criticism

2 positive, 0 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 2 critical, out of 5 comments about the project. Thread score -0.07.

Idea: 2 for, 1 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 against

The thread, comment by comment

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What HN said

What people liked

  • fail2ban is underappreciated and useful for small servers

    From 2 comments
    • fail2ban is one the most under appreciated tools on small to medium Unix servers. I was first introduced to it when administering some web facing Asterisk servers (FreePBX) and…
      Sean-Der on HN
    • Nice! I will have to give it a go sometime. unbanning from fail2ban is always a pain.
      bhhaskin on HN
  • A web UI would help less experienced sysadmins

    From 1 comment
    • Yes, the reality is that "baseball" is a bad password, and ssh as root is a bad idea but getting auth.log spammed into oblivion is also a bummer. It feels like a web GUI would…
      fred_durst on HN

Objections

  • Fail2ban adds little security for SSH; key-based or other auth is better

    From 1 comment
    • Exactly what fail2ban needed: a web UI for people to exploit. If I could eliminate any Linux service, it would probably be fail2ban. As an SSH security measure, it's more than…
      akerl_ on HN
  • Extra components add complexity and risk of locking yourself out

    From 1 comment
    • Thanks for making it. I'd like to give it a try some time. I certainly share your feeling about the awesomeness of fail2ban, as well as the slight awkwardness of interacting with…
      gingerlime on HN
  • A web UI could be an attack surface

    From 1 comment
    • Exactly what fail2ban needed: a web UI for people to exploit. If I could eliminate any Linux service, it would probably be fail2ban. As an SSH security measure, it's more than…
      akerl_ on HN
  • Fail2ban log parsing can be overloaded by attackers

    From 1 comment
    • It uses iptables, but it detects things to block by reading log files, and it's not exactly efficient in doing so. As such, if an attacker can pump lines in (like by having their…
      akerl_ on HN

Requests

  • Support Internet Explorer (window.location.origin missing)

    From 1 comment
    • So this looks like it will be pretty neat. I have it compiled and running. It seems to be mostly working. I did run into some issues. Like for instance, in the bundle.js file…
      djengineerllc on HN
  • Fix ban updates returning empty IP list from fail2rest

    From 1 comment
    • So this looks like it will be pretty neat. I have it compiled and running. It seems to be mostly working. I did run into some issues. Like for instance, in the bundle.js file…
      djengineerllc on HN

Questions

  • How fail2ban locks users out or gets overloaded given it uses iptables

    From 1 comment
    • I thought Fail2Ban hooked directly into iptables? How would you get locked out or overloaded? I don't necessarily think Fail2Ban needed a GUI, but I guess I never thought it was…
      ChikkaChiChi on HN

Alternatives named

  • fwknop single packet authorization

    From 1 comment
    • Exactly what fail2ban needed: a web UI for people to exploit. If I could eliminate any Linux service, it would probably be fail2ban. As an SSH security measure, it's more than…
      akerl_ on HN
  • google_authenticator PAM TOTP

    From 2 comments
    • Exactly what fail2ban needed: a web UI for people to exploit. If I could eliminate any Linux service, it would probably be fail2ban. As an SSH security measure, it's more than…
      akerl_ on HN
    • Add http://www.heiho.net/pam_shield/ and http://www.snafu.priv.at/mystuff/pam_recent.c to that list. I use use some iptables voodoo with them to auto-whitelist on successful auth…
      ryan-c on HN
  • knockknock single packet auth

    From 1 comment
    • Exactly what fail2ban needed: a web UI for people to exploit. If I could eliminate any Linux service, it would probably be fail2ban. As an SSH security measure, it's more than…
      akerl_ on HN
  • pam_shield and pam_recent with iptables

    From 1 comment
    • Add http://www.heiho.net/pam_shield/ and http://www.snafu.priv.at/mystuff/pam_recent.c to that list. I use use some iptables voodoo with them to auto-whitelist on successful auth…
      ryan-c on HN

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