Kaiwa

Productivity

team chat client

SHOW HN2015

339points
140comments
#38of 2,565 in 2015
Top 2%of 2015 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

14 positive, 36 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 13 critical, out of 64 comments about the project. Thread score +0.01.

Idea: 9 for, 4 againstExecution: 3 for, 1 againstDocs: 1 for, 2 againstDesign: 0 for, 3 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Welcomed as a self-hostable, open-source Slack alternative

    From 3 comments
    • In my opinion, it doesn't matter if it looks like Slack. What matters is that I can deploy it on an existing infrastructure and still have control over the service instead of…
      LaSombra on HN
    • I for one welcome slack competitors, self-hostable, open sources ones especially.
      est on HN
    • Great Work! This is exactly what I was looking for to deploy on my work, We are still stick on IBM chat, and this will blow people out of Water.
      xfalcox on HN
  • Open source apps promoting open protocols is good

    From 1 comment
    • Great to see open source apps promoting open protocols - made me sad to see FB and Google moving away from it
      juliendsv-mbm on HN
  • Deploy-to-DigitalOcean button is useful

    From 1 comment
    • The click to deploy on Digital Ocean is pretty cool.
      ape4 on HN

Objections

  • UI looks like a copy of Slack

    From 3 comments
    • The UI feels like a 1 to 1 copy of the Slack client, or is Slacks UI so common now copying it is just using the Chat-UI standard?
      simondelacourt on HN
    • Looks just like Slack.
      laex on HN
    • What's so original about the Slack ui? It's channels on the left and conversation on the right. A lot of irc clients look this way.
      Touche on HN
  • XMPP is dated and hard to work with; no push notifications on mobile

    From 2 comments
    • What prevents me from adopting XMPP for my team is the lack of push notifications to my phone. I don't want to have an app constantly maintain a connection and slowly drain my…
      datr on HN
    • I've been working with XMPP and a number of XMPP daemons. A couple years later I'm not a fan.
      lasermike026 on HN
  • No end-to-end encryption like OTR

    From 2 comments
    • No mention of OTR. :-( When your client is a Web app on a trusted server (i.e. OTR key on the server), you could avoid multi-client issues by having only that on XMPP client that…
      hsivonen on HN
    • I'm curious how E2E encryption (OTR e.g.) could be implemented with a client like this (preferably without having the keys leaked all over the place), it's the only interesting…
      creshal on HN
  • Maker's sister products raise concerns about the team

    From 1 comment
    • Note that the same team also offer a Trello clone and an Evernote clone. Draw your own conclusions. http://digicoop.io/products
      goodmachine on HN

Requests

  • Webhooks / Slack-style integrations

    From 2 comments
    • Is there any chance we will see webhooks in a future release? (ie. slack integration)
      davidchua on HN
    • We are working on integrating Hubot first and we'll look into webhooks after.
      emixam on HN
  • Mobile client support

    From 1 comment
  • Custom server IP addresses in mobile clients

    From 1 comment
    • Also Conversations doesnt allow for customer server IP address so it's unusable for me. Yaxim does which is why I will have to stay with it. Custom IP server addresses are…
      drcross on HN

Questions

  • Does it work with ejabberd?

    From 1 comment
    • We haven't tried but it should work with any server that supports WebSockets.
      emixam on HN
  • Can it chat with Google Talk users?

    From 1 comment
    • You will first need an XMPP account but then you can add GTalk users to your roster and chat with them.
      emixam on HN
  • Is LDAP optional?

    From 1 comment
    • LDAP is already optional. You can remove the "ldap" section from the config file and just launch the client.
      emixam on HN

Alternatives named

  • Let's Chat

    From 1 comment
  • Candy

    From 1 comment
  • Matrix

    From 1 comment
    • There's also http://matrix.org ; though it's not going down the RFC route (at the moment at least). </blatant self-promotion> There seems to be this general assumption at the…
      jkire on HN
  • irssi with screen and ssh

    From 1 comment
    • screen + ssh + irssi (+ bitlbee, if you need xmpp) > any web based solution. Why? Because I can see it on my phone and on my laptop, and it's as lightweight and simple as a `ssh…
      nickysielicki on HN
  • HipChat Server

    From 1 comment
    • HipChat does this: https://www.hipchat.com/server
      flxfxp on HN

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