CuttlePhish

Security and privacy

phishing simulation

SHOW HN2015

155points
69comments
#130of 2,565 in 2015
Top 6%of 2015 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

7 positive, 20 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 8 critical, out of 36 comments about the project. Thread score -0.02.

Idea: 3 for, 3 againstPrivacy: 1 for, 2 againstExecution: 0 for, 2 againstDocs: 1 for, 1 againstDesign: 2 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Useful service and refreshing idea

    From 3 comments
    • This is a useful service. But I imagine there will be some nontrivial issues regarding spam filtering, server reputation, legal, etc. How do you do email authentication? What are…
      fokz on HN
    • That's a refreshing idea for a change. Well done!
      talles on HN
    • +1! This thing is awesome. And that would make it even more awesome.
      andresmanz on HN
  • Good FAQ and branding

    From 2 comments
    • the FAQ page is 10/10 https://cuttlephish.com/faq
      zensavona on HN
    • Love the brand and name (reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDwOi7HpHtQ).
      mikeknoop on HN

Objections

  • Clicking a link does not show someone would fall for the phish; need login pages to measure real victims

    From 3 comments
    • There are many sites like this and I love what they are doing for raising awareness. As one of the first people to ever fight phishing (I worked at eBay and PayPal fighting…
      jedberg on HN
    • I often intentionally click links to phishing sites, and sometimes enter in fake usernames and passwords. (I even wrote several bots to auto enter thousands of random usernames…
      Buge on HN
    • Hm. I often click on obviously phishing links to see what's there. Would this tool classify me as a victim?
      runn1ng on HN
  • Simulations only give pass/fail data and can anger employees

    From 1 comment
    • I work in security at a large Fortune 500 company. I know at first it sounds like phishing your employees will give you good insight, but you realize quickly that the data you…
      pspace on HN
  • Emails may land in spam and trust in discarding credentials is a concern

    From 2 comments
    • How do you send your emails ? If your customer is using google domains, microsoft 365 or what else, and the employees do not fall in your phishing attempt and report your mail as…
      hrbrtglm on HN
    • Thanks and thanks for the suggestion! One thought I'd had was longer/more in depth campaigns. It's good to know other people would be interested in that as well. One thing I was…
      naftaliharris on HN

Requests

  • Add credential-capturing login pages and self-hosting option

    From 3 comments
    • There are many sites like this and I love what they are doing for raising awareness. As one of the first people to ever fight phishing (I worked at eBay and PayPal fighting…
      jedberg on HN
    • Or provide a self-hosting option; JavaScript can be changed at any moment. Request A might look fine, but request B for the same file 5 minutes later could be malicious.
      nitrogen on HN
    • Love it! My recommendation would be to offer an option for allowing the target to be tricked through the whole process. (Even if credentials are discarded completely.) The idea…
      x0ry on HN
  • Support for phishing via multiple channels beyond email

    From 1 comment
    • I work in security at a large Fortune 500 company. I know at first it sounds like phishing your employees will give you good insight, but you realize quickly that the data you…
      pspace on HN
  • Flexible budget-based pricing

    From 1 comment
    • You could address that by creating a control on the price. "I want to run this campaign against 500 users. But my budget is $100." The service sends out e-mails up to the $100…
      mfenniak on HN

Questions

  • Are trademark templates like Amazon legal to use

    From 1 comment
    • Neat! I really like the easy pricing model. Quick question - are you concerned about trademarks (Amazon and such) being included as the phishing templates? Reason I ask is that…
      jwcrux on HN
  • How are emails authenticated and spoofed past spam filters

    From 2 comments
    • Neat! I really like the easy pricing model. Quick question - are you concerned about trademarks (Amazon and such) being included as the phishing templates? Reason I ask is that…
      jwcrux on HN
    • This is a useful service. But I imagine there will be some nontrivial issues regarding spam filtering, server reputation, legal, etc. How do you do email authentication? What are…
      fokz on HN

Alternatives named

  • KnowBe4

    From 1 comment
    • Neat, but doesn't seem very IT/corporate, which would surely be the intended audience. My company uses these guys: http://www.knowbe4.com/
      watmough on HN
  • Apozy

    From 1 comment
    • I work in security at a large Fortune 500 company. I know at first it sounds like phishing your employees will give you good insight, but you realize quickly that the data you…
      pspace on HN
  • Phish5

    From 1 comment
    • Another service which does a similar thing that's been around some time, I used them but the spam filter ate all my fake mail, as it should :-) https://phish5.com/
      gnyman on HN
  • GoPhish

    From 1 comment
    • Neat! I really like the easy pricing model. Quick question - are you concerned about trademarks (Amazon and such) being included as the phishing templates? Reason I ask is that…
      jwcrux on HN

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