FaunaDB

Data

distributed database

SHOW HN2017

131points
159comments
#314of 2,242 in 2017
Top 15%of 2017 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

8 positive, 47 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 23 critical, out of 79 comments about the project. Thread score -0.23.

Idea: 2 for, 7 againstPricing: 1 for, 5 againstDocs: 1 for, 2 againstPerformance: 0 for, 3 againstDesign: 1 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Pay-for-use cloud model is appealing

    From 2 comments
    • I think Fauna is not very good at docs and communication yet, at least judging by confusion from some of the comments and by reading their docs. But launching will probably make…
      gregwebs on HN
    • That pricing model and serverless model is why I've always chosen CouchDB/Cloudant. If I'm doing the MB/hour to GB/month conversion correctly, Fauna cloud is significantly…
      doublerebel on HN
  • Team background from Twitter and Rails fan congratulations

    From 1 comment
    • I have been a fan of Evan going way back to the early Rails days. Congrats on the launch.
      anamoulous on HN

Objections

  • Marketing claims like first serverless database are misleading

    From 3 comments
    • It seems like one of the big issues with the marketing copy here is some of the word tricks being played: Any first-read of "The first serverless database" has the implication…
      akerl_ on HN
    • (Disclosure: I work on Google's Cloud Datastore.) This looks super neat, and I can't wait to learn more about it, but just for the record: I'm pretty sure this isn't the first…
      wsh91 on HN
    • Serverless Database, Global Latency 2.8 ms, Relational but no SQL (whatever sense that makes) BULLSHIT BINGO at its very best.
      snackai on HN
  • Query pricing seems very expensive at scale

    From 2 comments
    • I feel like I need to note the pricing. $0.01 per 1,000 queries. That doesn't sound like much, but it adds up. Let's say you make 1,000/sec. $0.01 * 60 seconds in a minute * 60…
      mdasen on HN
    • $0.01 per simple operation sounds very expensive to me. This would add up very quickly. Edit: I misread it. Perhaps instead of inventing your own point system that you have to…
      jazoom on HN
  • Latency badge was misleading and removed

    From 2 comments
    • You might consider removing the badge on the home page that says "Global Latency 2.8 ms". Unless you really can give me latency across the globe of 2.8 ms, in which case your…
      ccleve on HN
    • Confusing latency number (although it is a real number) is gone.
      evanweaver on HN
  • Consistency claims unclear for indexes and write throughput

    From 2 comments
    • Those docs are coming. I still don't see how you can make any useful claim about consistency when indexes are never isolated or consistent, and sustained consistent write…
      evanweaver on HN
    • Maybe the first one. GCP can't span multiple public cloud providers, or even different continents within GCP, apparently. Indexes and cross-partition transactions aren't…
      evanweaver on HN

Requests

  • Explain architecture and how data is persisted

    From 2 comments
    • You should explain how it works. It's not like I'm going to steal your ideas and spend five years implementing them ... or maybe I will if it's good ;)
      z3t4 on HN
    • So... where does the data go? Maybe a simpleton question but I couldn't easily find an answer in the about section. If it's all function-based, where does the data actually get…
      sushisource on HN
  • Add a spending cap

    From 1 comment
    • Do you support a hard limit on money spent? I would like to be able to say 30 bucks a month max or something
      hubert123 on HN
  • Open source or more open documentation

    From 1 comment
    • If your database is not Open Source then your marketing lingo needs to be more open or else you'll have the same mistake as FoundationDB (which looked like vapor-ware). As a…
      marknadal on HN

Questions

  • Why no SQL support

    From 1 comment
    • > It’s relational, but not SQL. Why not? If you already support relational algebra, it seems like a non-brainer to just add SQL. Even if it's only SQL-92 you would be able to…
      assface on HN
  • How does it compare to Google Spanner

    From 2 comments
    • This sounds a lot like google spanner. I'm no expert though. What's the difference?
      pbgiese on HN
    • I think they missed Google's launch of Spanner their distributed strongly consistent DB.
      danthemanvsqz on HN
  • How are foreign keys and secondary indexes maintained

    From 1 comment
    • I'm curious about the relational-ness of FaunaDB. e.g. How do you efficiently maintain integrity of foreign key constraints across the entire system? How fast and consistent are…
      elvinyung on HN

Alternatives named

  • Google Cloud Spanner

    From 2 comments
    • This sounds a lot like google spanner. I'm no expert though. What's the difference?
      pbgiese on HN
    • I feel like I need to note the pricing. $0.01 per 1,000 queries. That doesn't sound like much, but it adds up. Let's say you make 1,000/sec. $0.01 * 60 seconds in a minute * 60…
      mdasen on HN
  • CockroachDB

    From 1 comment
    • If your database is not Open Source then your marketing lingo needs to be more open or else you'll have the same mistake as FoundationDB (which looked like vapor-ware). As a…
      marknadal on HN
  • Google Cloud Datastore and Firebase Realtime Database

    From 1 comment
    • (Disclosure: I work on Google's Cloud Datastore.) This looks super neat, and I can't wait to learn more about it, but just for the record: I'm pretty sure this isn't the first…
      wsh91 on HN
  • CouchDB/Cloudant

    From 1 comment
    • That pricing model and serverless model is why I've always chosen CouchDB/Cloudant. If I'm doing the MB/hour to GB/month conversion correctly, Fauna cloud is significantly…
      doublerebel on HN

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