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222points
126comments
#133of 2,242 in 2017
Top 6%of 2017 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

6 positive, 29 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 27 critical, out of 64 comments about the project. Thread score -0.31.

Idea: 2 for, 20 againstDesign: 2 for, 4 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Simple, clean design and good logo

    From 3 comments
    • I would second the option to negate some of these "values." There are about eight that I don't consider to be "values", but just to pick one of them at random, I don't consider…
      Jemaclus on HN
    • I must say, I like the logo and name.
      calebm on HN
    • Practically all the advice here is rubbish in my opinion. As a user, allow me to request the following: * Please do not attempt to make it an objective rating of values * Please…
      arjie on HN
  • Congratulations on shipping a useful product solo

    From 1 comment
    • I was originally going to point out what I would like to see changed/added to the site - but after considering it and reading the other comments here, I don't think I'd add much…
      LyndsySimon on HN

Objections

  • Values are vague or buzzword-like and hard to verify

    From 3 comments
    • Uh. I'm sorry about the tone, but about a half of that looks like they were taken straight out of some buzzword bingo. Things like "thoughtful office layout", "ideal for parents"…
      drdaeman on HN
    • I don't know if I got it from Hacker News, but I've adopted the position that workplace "values" don't mean anything unless they're: a) verifiable and/or b) someone could…
      ACow_Adonis on HN
    • What are you trying to accomplish here? It looks like a nicely structured rigorous filtering tool based on values. But when you view the details for any company, it's not really…
      shimon on HN
  • Company self-descriptions are biased and may not match reality

    From 3 comments
    • What are you trying to accomplish here? It looks like a nicely structured rigorous filtering tool based on values. But when you view the details for any company, it's not really…
      shimon on HN
    • what also might be useful is to have reviews from former employees, and see how well they line up with what the team said. I've worked on a few teams that claimed these "values"…
      mgkimsal on HN
    • It's a nice idea but I find how a company likes to describe itself can be vastly different to how it actually is.
      astonex on HN
  • Only positive values are listed; no negations or opposites

    From 3 comments
    • Seems like this list of "values" takes one side exclusively, without offering a counter-option. I would like to see an IQ > EQ option, for example.
      daxorid on HN
    • Uh. I'm sorry about the tone, but about a half of that looks like they were taken straight out of some buzzword bingo. Things like "thoughtful office layout", "ideal for parents"…
      drdaeman on HN
    • I would second the option to negate some of these "values." There are about eight that I don't consider to be "values", but just to pick one of them at random, I don't consider…
      Jemaclus on HN
  • Pick-8 ranking is too subjective

    From 1 comment
    • What are you trying to accomplish here? It looks like a nicely structured rigorous filtering tool based on values. But when you view the details for any company, it's not really…
      shimon on HN

Requests

  • Add ability to negate values

    From 1 comment
    • I would second the option to negate some of these "values." There are about eight that I don't consider to be "values", but just to pick one of them at random, I don't consider…
      Jemaclus on HN
  • Add more opinionated product and engineering values

    From 3 comments
    • Cool idea! I would love to see some more opinionated product-oriented values, eg large js frameworks vs minimal client side code, tracking vs privacy, etc.
      Lxr on HN
    • I would like to see values experience over ability to solve trick question on whiteboard.
      jarsin on HN
    • One thing I'd love to filter on is "Gives developers private/shared offices" as opposed to open-floor. Also would be nice to filter on workflow/tools like git vs. perforce, or…
      darioush on HN
  • Add reviews from former employees

    From 1 comment
    • what also might be useful is to have reviews from former employees, and see how well they line up with what the team said. I've worked on a few teams that claimed these "values"…
      mgkimsal on HN
  • Add a way to verify values

    From 2 comments
    • What is the process for adding a company? How are these so-called values verified as being true for a given company?
      peternicky on HN
    • I don't know if I got it from Hacker News, but I've adopted the position that workplace "values" don't mean anything unless they're: a) verifiable and/or b) someone could…
      ACow_Adonis on HN

Questions

  • How are values verified for a given company?

    From 1 comment
    • What is the process for adding a company? How are these so-called values verified as being true for a given company?
      peternicky on HN
  • How are key values obtained from companies?

    From 1 comment
    • Interesting.. How do you get these key-values from companies?
      the_arun on HN

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