GiveHongBao

Finance and crypto

crypto donations

SHOW HN2017

43points
30comments
#879of 2,242 in 2017
Top 40%of 2017 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

3 positive, 12 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 8 critical, out of 23 comments about the project. Thread score -0.09.

Idea: 1 for, 3 againstDesign: 1 for, 1 againstExecution: 0 for, 2 againstPricing: 0 for, 2 againstDocs: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Simple, MVP-like design

    From 1 comment
    • Refreshingly simple, this is one of the better display of what an MVP is. Congrats!
      jaequery on HN
  • Lower fees than GoFundMe or Patreon

    From 1 comment
    • The fee does go towards hosting the campaign page. Also GiveHongBao doesn't charge for the deployment of the campaign contract--- that is paid out of my own account, so charging…
      vincentchu on HN

Objections

  • Shady: the maker may pocket donations meant for causes

    From 2 comments
    • You're raising money on behalf of other people and, presumably, pocketing some of it (even if you're say you're not, how do we know for sure?) Brave is doing this sort of thing…
      tree_of_item on HN
    • "We don't charge a percentage of what people give. Instead, we charge a flat amount for any amount donated. Keep more of what people give." I don't think is the Ethereum gas…
      atrudeau on HN
  • Proceeds to EFF are sold off-chain, so they cannot be verified on the blockchain

    From 2 comments
    • > That's what Ethereum is for. It's completely public and can't be tampered with, so you can check exactly where the money is going. Except the page admits there will be a delay…
      tree_of_item on HN
    • You're right. Just read it again and saw: > Each month I'll sell the wallet's contents and donate the proceeds to them, providing proof via my Twitter account. There are too many…
      cocktailpeanuts on HN
  • Flat fee charged on donations is unjustified

    From 2 comments
    • This should be free and GiveHongBao should have their own donation page within the system. Charging a fee (even if flat) for donations doesn't feel right. They aren't offering…
      atrudeau on HN
    • "We don't charge a percentage of what people give. Instead, we charge a flat amount for any amount donated. Keep more of what people give." I don't think is the Ethereum gas…
      atrudeau on HN
  • Hong Bao name is confusing for non-Chinese speakers

    From 1 comment
    • That's what Ethereum is for. It's completely public and can't be tampered with, so you can check exactly where the money is going. Btw. most people people who don't know Chinese…
      cocktailpeanuts on HN
  • Site looks suspicious: /campaigns 404s and homepage is sparse

    From 2 comments
    • https://givehongbao.com/campaigns 404?
      hellbanner on HN
    • Yeah, when home page only has "Login" and "Create Campaign" and /campaigns 404s, it makes me skeptical the site is legit
      hellbanner on HN

Requests

  • Make fees and contract mechanics clearer on the site

    From 1 comment
    • Please make the mechanics and fees clearer on the website. Linking to and explaining the contract would be great for transparency. With that done, I think your service can be…
      atrudeau on HN
  • List live campaigns at /campaigns

    From 2 comments
    • https://givehongbao.com/campaigns might be a good place to list the campaigns that are currently live.
      strictnein on HN
    • Indeed! That's a great suggestion ...
      vincentchu on HN
  • Open source the project

    From 1 comment
    • I realise that you would probably won't do this, but it'd be awesome to see some of this open sourced. Despite being reasonably experienced, the idea of building an API that…
      germainelol on HN

Questions

  • How does the maker verify the money reaches the cause?

    From 1 comment
    • You're raising money on behalf of other people and, presumably, pocketing some of it (even if you're say you're not, how do we know for sure?) Brave is doing this sort of thing…
      tree_of_item on HN
  • Why not send crypto directly to any address?

    From 1 comment
    • Why people can't just send cryptocurrency from their wallet to any address they want to donate instantly?
      FrozenVoid on HN
  • What does the name mean?

    From 2 comments
    • I'm curious about the name.
      Kiro on HN
    • HongBao means "red envelope" in mandarin. It's usually filled with cash, and is something we give to other people as gifts in festive occasions.…
      yen223 on HN

Alternatives named

  • GoFundMe

    From 2 comments
    • Hi all. The contract that distributes donations also transfers a fixed fee to my account. For instance, see:…
      vincentchu on HN
    • The fee does go towards hosting the campaign page. Also GiveHongBao doesn't charge for the deployment of the campaign contract--- that is paid out of my own account, so charging…
      vincentchu on HN
  • Patreon

    From 1 comment
    • Hi all. The contract that distributes donations also transfers a fixed fee to my account. For instance, see:…
      vincentchu on HN
  • Brave attention tokens

    From 1 comment
    • You're raising money on behalf of other people and, presumably, pocketing some of it (even if you're say you're not, how do we know for sure?) Brave is doing this sort of thing…
      tree_of_item on HN
  • AdSense

    From 1 comment
    • Technically isn't this what adsense does? Sell ads + give some to creators? If they don't give it to creators...the creators won't promote them. They need the evangelists.
      joelrunyon on HN

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