Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Berkeley Mono Typeface

Thanks and good feedback, beta testing was done in a similar way - font cut with a few missing glyphs and…

berkeleygraphics.com

#monospace font#coding font#font license#typeface

355points
171comments
#105of 2,570 in 2022
Top 5%of 2022 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

26 positive, 49 neutral or asking, 8 mixed, 26 critical, out of 109 comments about the project. Thread score +0.03.

Design: 16 for, 7 againstPricing: 1 for, 10 againstDocs: 1 for, 5 againstExecution: 1 for, 1 againstIdea: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Beautiful, clear design that looks good in use

    From 3 comments
    • I think this is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. Of course the creators should get paid, its a lifetime license, I'm going to forgo some of my usual BS purchases and…
      banku_brougham on HN
    • This looks great. It reminds me very much of the old vt100 font except that obviously without visible pixelation and gaps. Nice job.
      seanhunter on HN
    • I rarely get excited by fonts, but I'm loving this one. I only recently realized how long machine readable fonts have been around while working on a reproduction of the Apollo 11…
      alangibson on HN
  • Marketing page and animation are impressive

    From 3 comments
    • What a great marketing page. I loved the animation! I’m also a big fan of the design of the author’s website: https://neil.computer/
      flobosg on HN
    • side note: what an absolutely beautiful website. clear and fast. I love it.
      _jordan on HN
    • That marketing animation looked absolutely amazing!
      wodenokoto on HN
  • Indie typeface welcomed and fairly priced

    From 1 comment
    • Netflix is entertainment, typefaces have a LOT more utility in my life. Maybe I'm weird because I regularly purchase typefaces but $75 is a STEAL. Holy shit. The commercial…
      NetOpWibby on HN

Objections

  • $75 price is too high for a font

    From 3 comments
    • I think the problem is more that the costs feel exorbitant with respect to both the perceived effort and utility. 75$ is half a year of Netflix - a product clearly born of…
      thereisnospork on HN
    • > Berkeley Mono wears a UNIX T-shirt and aspires to be etched on control panels in black synthetic lacquer. It is Adrian Frutiger visits Bell Labs. It is Gene Kranz's command. It…
      humanistbot on HN
    • I'd pay something to use this on my personal machine, but I don't make printed materials, I just like a nice terminal font. Nor do I much care to use web fonts either, so while…
      Aloha on HN
  • No trial version to test in the editor before buying

    From 3 comments
    • I can only really judge a font when its loaded in my system, running in my setup. I wish font makers targeting developers would release trial fonts (with some essential chars…
      armadillu on HN
    • Looks nice in principle, but being suitable for the actual daily use (for coding) will depend on how it renders in a specific IDE at a specific size on a specific OS. There's…
      huhtenberg on HN
    • Is it available as a bitmap font, i.e pcf or bdf? It is the only way I can get mono spaced fonts as crisp as I like them in linux desktop terminals.
      grafelic on HN
  • Subscription commercial license is unclear and inconvenient

    From 3 comments
    • The licensing is unclear/vague/contradictory... I'm totally confused what the 'developer' license actually means when it says you can use it for "personal use in professional…
      abeyer on HN
    • Love this, but I find the yearly / per-seat pricing for commercial use very hostile. Nobody wants to be chasing bills for a single typeface in their project. A one-off charge…
      ricardobeat on HN
    • Looks nice. You could support Hungarian with only two additional letters. I find the subscription license for commercial use a bit problematic. Say I have an app and I want to…
      biztos on HN
  • Zero and O glyphs look too similar

    From 2 comments
    • If you look at the Burgevouns comparison Berkley mono is the least good. It's compared to non-mono fonts which, naturally, have better kerning. Having three different…
      teknopaul on HN
    • The Zero and capital "O" look quite similar to my eye: https://berkeleygraphics.com/static/images/marketing/code-symbols.svg I doubt that this amount of work overlooked such a…
      liquidise on HN
  • Missing language support such as Greek, Cyrillic and Hebrew

    From 1 comment
    • I really like the font, but I doubt that a claim of “wide language support” can be made when Greek, Cyrillic, Hebrew, and other scripts are not supported.
      ainar-g on HN

Requests

  • Free or trial download to test in an editor

    From 3 comments
    • I can only really judge a font when its loaded in my system, running in my setup. I wish font makers targeting developers would release trial fonts (with some essential chars…
      armadillu on HN
    • I do not have any problems paying for something that I will use several hours every day. But would like to try the font in my editor before purchasing. Could have a demo download…
      z3t4 on HN
    • I really like the font. At least at mobile it seems to be extremely clear. I cannot pinpoint why. But to try it in my editor it seems I need to buy a $75 license first. Is there…
      spockz on HN
  • Ligatures

    From 2 comments
    • I would love to see ligatures incorporated but I understand that is a polarizing opinion. I love the little niceties of rendering arrows which are used all over the place these…
      leetrout on HN
    • Does it has ligatures? If it doesn't, it should be a pretty good thing to add to some people.
      jmrm on HN
  • Powerline glyph support

    From 1 comment
    • I can’t tell from the page - is this powerline compatible? Many of us all have fancy prompts and other text envs that need powerline glyph support.
      jasonpeacock on HN
  • Bitmap or hinted TTF version for Linux and Windows terminals

    From 2 comments
    • Is it available as a bitmap font, i.e pcf or bdf? It is the only way I can get mono spaced fonts as crisp as I like them in linux desktop terminals.
      grafelic on HN
    • Looks nice in principle, but being suitable for the actual daily use (for coding) will depend on how it renders in a specific IDE at a specific size on a specific OS. There's…
      huhtenberg on HN
  • A perpetual one-off commercial license

    From 2 comments
    • Love this, but I find the yearly / per-seat pricing for commercial use very hostile. Nobody wants to be chasing bills for a single typeface in their project. A one-off charge…
      ricardobeat on HN
    • Looks nice. You could support Hungarian with only two additional letters. I find the subscription license for commercial use a bit problematic. Say I have an app and I want to…
      biztos on HN

Questions

  • Is it powerline compatible?

    From 1 comment
    • I can’t tell from the page - is this powerline compatible? Many of us all have fancy prompts and other text envs that need powerline glyph support.
      jasonpeacock on HN
  • Can the font be patched with Nerd Fonts glyphs?

    From 1 comment
    • I enquired and I was told in no uncertain terms that the license forbids patching. This means that you cannot use the popular Nerd Fonts [1] patch set for adding missing glyphs.…
      chaz6 on HN
  • What is the difference from Roboto?

    From 1 comment
    • At a risk of sounding like a font snob, what's the difference between this and Roboto?
      minimaxir on HN

Alternatives named

  • JetBrains Mono

    From 2 comments
    • Very similar to JetBrains Mono.
      29athrowaway on HN
    • As a dev who constantly switches out fonts / themes & also pays for them, a few things to note: - I mainly test for clarity, how HD something is on my IDE from 12 to 16px. I paid…
      mangopi on HN
  • Fira Code

    From 1 comment
    • Very effective presentation. It looks fantastic. Will be good value at $75 for some people but not for me with so many other great mono fonts available (many with code…
      shirro on HN
  • Hack

    From 1 comment
    • If you look at the Burgevouns comparison Berkley mono is the least good. It's compared to non-mono fonts which, naturally, have better kerning. Having three different…
      teknopaul on HN
  • Input Mono

    From 1 comment
    • I actually wanted to make it simpler. Separating professional use (this is how Input Mono font does it) and commercial use allows developers to use fonts for their daily work,…
      neilpanchal on HN
  • Go fonts

    From 1 comment
    • I use the Go font: https://go.dev/blog/go-fonts Free and beautiful.
      37ef_ced3 on HN

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