GuppyLM

Learning and science

educational llm implementation

SHOW HN2026

915points
134comments
#14of 4,366 in 2026
Top 1%of 2026 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

33 positive, 25 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 6 critical, out of 65 comments about the project. Thread score +0.46.

Idea: 18 for, 2 againstExecution: 1 for, 4 againstDocs: 4 for, 0 againstDesign: 1 for, 0 against

The thread, comment by comment

Each row is a top-level comment and its replies, in HN's order. Select a cell to open that comment on HN.

positive neutral or mixed critical about another commenter or something else the maker

What HN said

What people liked

  • Great educational tool for learning how LLMs work

    From 3 comments
    • It's genuinely a great introduction to LLMs. I built my own awhile ago based off Milton's Paradise Lost: https://www.wvrk.org/works/milton
      ordinarily on HN
    • This is a nice idea. A tiny implementation can be way more useful for learning than yet another wrapper around a big model, especially if it keeps the training loop and inference…
      rpdaiml on HN
    • Building it yourself is always the best test if you really understand how it works.
      EmilioOldenziel on HN
  • Fun personality and humor in the fish responses

    From 2 comments
    • I love these kinds of educational implementations. I want to really praise the (unintentional?) nod to Nagel, by limiting capabilities to representation of a fish, the user is…
      AndrewKemendo on HN
    • I... wow, you made an LLM that can actually tell jokes?
      gnarlouse on HN
  • Simple, readable code without abstractions

    From 2 comments
    • The decision to strip out GQA/RoPE/SwiGLU and go vanilla transformer is the right call here — at 9M params those additions add complexity without meaningful gains, and keeping…
      jiusanzhou on HN
    • The constraint-driven approach here is what makes it actually useful as a learning tool. When you're working with ~130 lines of PyTorch, you can't hide behind abstractions —…
      areys on HN

Objections

  • Examples appear copied from training data and the model handles unknown queries poorly

    From 2 comments
    • I like the idea, just that the examples are reproduced from the training data set. How does it handle unknown queries?
      zwaps on HN
    • It mostly doesn't, at 9M it has very limited capacity. The whole idea of this project is to demonstrate how Language Models work.
      armanified on HN
  • Title oversells it; the project does not really demystify anything

    From 1 comment
    • Great work! I still think that [1] does a better job of helping us understand how GPT and LLM work, but yours is funnier. Then, some criticism. I probably don't get it, but I…
      Propelloni on HN
  • Seems like low-effort AI-generated project

    From 1 comment
    • I don't mean to be 'that guy', but after a quick review, this really feels like low-effort AI slop to me. There is nothing wrong using AI tools to write code, but nothing here…
      rahen on HN
  • Lowercase-only training data means uppercase input is ignored

    From 3 comments
    • This is probably a consequence of the training data being fully lowercase: You> hello Guppy> hi. did you bring micro pellets. You> HELLO Guppy> i don't know what it means but…
      mudkipdev on HN
    • I love this! Seems like it can't understand uppercase letters though
      Duplicake on HN
    • Uppercase letters were intentionally ignored.
      armanified on HN

Requests

  • Documentation on how the synthetic data was generated

    From 3 comments
    • I am trying to find how the synthetic data was created (looking through the repo) and didn't find it. Maybe I am missing it - Would love to see the prompts and process on that…
      CaseFlatline on HN
    • how did you generate the synthetic data?
      fawabc on HN
    • * How creating dataset? I download it but it is commpresed in binary format. * How training. In cloud or in my own dev * How creating a gguf
      gdzie-jest-sol on HN
  • Comparison with microgpt and minGPT

    From 1 comment
    • How does this compare to Andrej Karpathy's microgpt (https://karpathy.github.io/2026/02/12/microgpt/) or minGPT (https://github.com/karpathy/minGPT)?
      fg137 on HN
  • Write-up on how it was built and what was referenced

    From 1 comment
    • This is so cool! I'd love to see a write-up on how made it, and what you referenced because designing neural networks always feel like a maze ;)
      kaipereira on HN

Questions

  • How does it handle longer context and unknown queries?

    From 2 comments
    • how's it handle longer context or does it start hallucinating after like 2 sentences? curious what the ceiling is before the 9M params
      kubrador on HN
    • I like the idea, just that the examples are reproduced from the training data set. How does it handle unknown queries?
      zwaps on HN
  • How small can the training data and model get before output stops being coherent?

    From 2 comments
    • How much training data did you end up needing for the fish personality to feel coherent? Curious what the minimum viable dataset looks like for something like this.
      martmulx on HN
    • This is a great way to learn. Most people treat LLMs as black boxes, but building one from scratch — even tiny — forces you to understand attention, tokenization, and loss at a…
      LeonTing1010 on HN
  • Can it be trained through conversation alone?

    From 1 comment
    • Could it be possible to train LLM only through the chat messages without any other data or input? If Guppy doesn't know regular expressions yet, could I teach it to it just by…
      bblb on HN

Alternatives named

  • Karpathy's microgpt and minGPT

    From 1 comment
    • How does this compare to Andrej Karpathy's microgpt (https://karpathy.github.io/2026/02/12/microgpt/) or minGPT (https://github.com/karpathy/minGPT)?
      fg137 on HN
  • bbycroft.net LLM 3D visualizer

    From 1 comment
    • https://bbycroft.net/llm has 3d Visualization of tiny example LLM layers that do a very good job at showing what is going on (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38505211)
      totetsu on HN
  • rasbt LLMs-from-scratch

    From 1 comment
    • Great work! I still think that [1] does a better job of helping us understand how GPT and LLM work, but yours is funnier. Then, some criticism. I probably don't get it, but I…
      Propelloni on HN

Category, keywords, summaries and labels on this page were made by AI (Thread Reader v2) and not checked by hand. Each point links to the comments it came from.

Add a badge to your READMEShown on HackerShow
[![Shown on HackerShow](https://hackershow.org/badge.svg)](https://hackershow.org/show/47655408)