Days to Cover signal

Finance and crypto

algorithmic trading

SHOW HN2013

89points
51comments
#267of 1,739 in 2013
Top 16%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

1 positive, 5 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 6 critical, out of 12 comments about the project. Thread score -0.31.

Idea: 1 for, 4 againstPerformance: 0 for, 2 against

The thread, comment by comment

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Commenters praise the idea of short interest as a signal and the Quantopian platform

    From 2 comments
    • While I'd love to take all the credit (blame?), the reformed academic in my feels compelled to admit that the idea to look for predictive value in stock loan data is not original…
      jstauth on HN
    • Yes. Which seems like a better investment: dedication to a platform that certainly will attract speculators and is underserved in general or dedication to a trading algorithm in…
      pathdependent on HN

Objections

  • Backtests on historical data do not guarantee future returns

    From 3 comments
    • My comment in the last thread opened with a post from this source: Past performance does not guarantee future results" is still the operative principle here. Data-mining…
      tokenadult on HN
    • Have their been any studies on the accuracy of backtesting data in predicting actual returns? Comments like yours always appear on these articles... "You can backtest, but you…
      chatmasta on HN
    • If an algorithm stops performing after hours or days, it's likely you haven't discovered anything, but are simply seeing the effects of random noise on your hundreds, thousands,…
      codex on HN
  • Signal underperforms buying and holding SPY

    From 1 comment
    • When the broad market is rising by over 10% annually, it is very difficult to come up with a trading strategy that looses money. For example, buying SPY and holding it for the…
      stevewilhelm on HN
  • Profits concentrated in a short period, looks like noise

    From 1 comment
    • I'd be hard-pressed to call this algo as "working". If you look at the PnL, it makes most of its profit from Sept 15 2012 to Nov 15 2012. The rest of the time, it's either drawn…
      steven2012 on HN
  • No stop-loss or drawdown protection

    From 1 comment
    • You should put in some kind of protection for a max drawdown loss, like if you lose x%, you exit. Sometimes your algorithm messes up, or market conditions are bad.…
      vellum on HN

Requests

  • Add a max drawdown exit rule

    From 1 comment
    • You should put in some kind of protection for a max drawdown loss, like if you lose x%, you exit. Sometimes your algorithm messes up, or market conditions are bad.…
      vellum on HN
  • Label the benchmark in the chart

    From 1 comment
    • Very interesting stuff. "The Benchmark" is the SP500 I'm guessing? I couldn't find the answer after clicking around for a bit, sorry if I'm dumb. You might list the reference…
      ad on HN
  • Include borrow costs for the short side

    From 1 comment
    • If you click on the code and search for commissions, you'll see how those costs are taken into account. The big missing thing is the market for borrowing the stock to do the…
      fawce on HN

Questions

  • Does the model include transaction costs and market impact?

    From 1 comment
    • Did anyone actually try this with real money? Does the model include transaction costs and market impact effect?
      niggler on HN
  • Has anyone traded this with real money?

    From 1 comment
    • Did anyone actually try this with real money? Does the model include transaction costs and market impact effect?
      niggler on HN
  • Does this meet Show HN criteria?

    From 1 comment
    • Serious question: does this meet "Show HN" criteria? I mean I value sharing the algorithm, but I thought that Show HN is reserved for entire projects (ie. sites, saas platforms,…
      polskibus on HN

Alternatives named

  • Quantopian platform

    From 2 comments
    • Serious question: does this meet "Show HN" criteria? I mean I value sharing the algorithm, but I thought that Show HN is reserved for entire projects (ie. sites, saas platforms,…
      polskibus on HN
    • Yes. Which seems like a better investment: dedication to a platform that certainly will attract speculators and is underserved in general or dedication to a trading algorithm in…
      pathdependent on HN
  • Insider trading signals from SEC Form 4 filings

    From 2 comments
    • Back testing is a real bitch. I've been building my own app for back testing recently, my specific interest being how published insider buys (SEC Form 4 transactions) affect the…
      ikea_meatballs on HN
    • While I'd love to take all the credit (blame?), the reformed academic in my feels compelled to admit that the idea to look for predictive value in stock loan data is not original…
      jstauth on HN

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