Passbox

Security and privacy

digital legacy and password sharing

SHOW HN2019

110points
134comments
#436of 2,195 in 2019
Top 20%of 2019 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

4 positive, 31 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 33 critical, out of 70 comments about the project. Thread score -0.41.

Idea: 3 for, 11 againstPricing: 0 for, 8 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 7 againstExecution: 0 for, 5 againstDocs: 0 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Idea for digital legacy is appreciated and useful.

    From 2 comments
    • Interesting! This was kind of my software engineering II project back in college a decade ago. I wrote it in PHP. You configured all sorts of different actions that would occur…
      MrLeap on HN
    • I thought about doing this several times but backed off because of dark connotations with death :)
      option_greek on HN

Objections

  • Users must trust a third party with sensitive data.

    From 3 comments
    • I’ve given a lot of thought to this problem lately after becoming a parent. However, I just can’t picture trusting this to a third party. Ideally I’d store my master password to…
      bronco21016 on HN
    • Asking users to trust a random web service with their most sensitive data almost feels like a prank.
      beshrkayali on HN
    • Two concerns: 1. I don't think I can trust a new 3rd party with private data 2. I don't think this service will live long enough to be around for another 50+ years This service…
      miguelmota on HN
  • Pricing is too high for the service.

    From 3 comments
    • A few comments: - I think the pricing structure is way too high. $60/year is quite a bit for what you are offering. At that price, I would rather rent a safety deposit box with a…
      chadash on HN
    • Get rid of $5.99 / mo, charge a flat $99 lifetime. Monthly doesn't make sense at all for this kind of service. I have no plan on dying anytime soon.
      madamelic on HN
    • Wouldn't it be nice to leave 60$/year to those you really care instead?
      Dolores12 on HN
  • Email notifications could be missed, enabling misuse.

    From 1 comment
    • My trusted friend decides to try to access all my online accounts, and requests access to my Passbox. Passbox sends me an email informing me of the request. Oops. The email from…
      kangnkodos on HN
  • Company longevity over decades is doubtful.

    From 2 comments
    • Two concerns: 1. I don't think I can trust a new 3rd party with private data 2. I don't think this service will live long enough to be around for another 50+ years This service…
      miguelmota on HN
    • What if Passbox dies before I do?
      GaryNumanVevo on HN

Requests

  • Offer a lifetime one-time payment option.

    From 2 comments
    • Get rid of $5.99 / mo, charge a flat $99 lifetime. Monthly doesn't make sense at all for this kind of service. I have no plan on dying anytime soon.
      madamelic on HN
    • I’m surprised there wasn’t a lifetime plan for $5.99. The cost to store that amount of minimal data is moot. I would never pay monthly for something like this - but would likely…
      bobbonew on HN
  • Sync updates automatically rather than manual re-entry.

    From 1 comment
    • A few comments: - I think the pricing structure is way too high. $60/year is quite a bit for what you are offering. At that price, I would rather rent a safety deposit box with a…
      chadash on HN
  • Clearer comparison of free and paid features.

    From 1 comment
    • You should line up the free and paid features, perhaps in a table. I can't glance at a list of 8 items and a list of 10 items and distinguish what changed between them, so I'm…
      ken on HN

Questions

  • Is data encrypted at rest and who holds the key?

    From 1 comment
    • The "How does Passbox work?" isn't clear to me. Is it encrypted at rest? Who has the password (or passwords), and is it just one secret key to unlock everything? Do my Trusted…
      ken on HN
  • What happens to access if the payment card stops working after death?

    From 2 comments
    • If a person dies and their payment card stops working, does the account get suspended for non-payment?
      offmycloud on HN
    • But what happens when your credit cards are cancelled after you die? That's a Catch-22 right there.
      exhilaration on HN

Alternatives named

  • LastPass Emergency Access

    From 2 comments
    • A few comments: - I think the pricing structure is way too high. $60/year is quite a bit for what you are offering. At that price, I would rather rent a safety deposit box with a…
      chadash on HN
    • This service (Passbox) seems to be equivalent to LastPass's "Emergency Access" feature. See:…
      troymc on HN
  • Shamir's Secret Sharing

    From 1 comment
    • Free alternative: use one of several tools that implement Shamir's Secret Sharing Scheme to split your master password into chunks. You can create a bunch of chunks and require…
      teuobk on HN
  • Safety deposit box

    From 2 comments
    • Serious question. Why wouldn't I just use a safety deposit box? Outside of the convenience of being electronic what benefit does this add over a physical storage space? The…
      kemiller2002 on HN
    • Why not print all that data out and give it to someone you trust or keep it in a deposit box which can be legally passed to your family?
      achikin on HN
  • key2lyf.com

    From 1 comment
    • There's another on, key2lyf.com which is really similar. I love these kind of ideas.
      wheelerwj on HN

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